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Viguerie: Poll Reveals Anger With GOP
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| February 1, 2006
Posted on 02/01/2006 5:02:29 PM PST by SC33
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To: SC33
73 percent gave it a D or F on "reducing illegal immigration Nooo. That can't be. Why, the Bush administration has been doing an outstanding job ending this problem.
Just make them all legal, and poof!, no more problem.
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posted on
02/01/2006 6:17:05 PM PST
by
Pelham
("Borders? We don' need no stinking borders!")
To: sinkspur
Good point, stinky. The majority loves illegal immigration, so you can stop worrying.
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posted on
02/01/2006 6:20:26 PM PST
by
Pelham
("Borders? We don' need no stinking borders!")
To: jammer
I'm with you jammer and thanks.
See RE:#40.
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posted on
02/01/2006 6:22:31 PM PST
by
Reagan Man
(Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
To: Reagan Man
Don't, you'd lose. For starters, you don't know me at all. In 1986 the deficit was coming down, welfare entitlement and non-security discretionary spending had been reduced and Reagan nominated a solid conservative to the SC by the name of, Antonin Scalia. And the GOP ws getting my donations. Life was good Not according to some "true conservatives".
Conservative critics like the Heritage Foundation's Stuart Butler did not try to hide their disappointment and frustration. Six years into the Reagan presidency, Butler wrote that "the basic structure of the Great Society is still firmly intact .... virtually no program has been eliminated."[xv
Ronald Reagan, The Heritage Foundation Remembers
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posted on
02/01/2006 6:23:48 PM PST
by
Dane
( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
To: Stellar Dendrite
Republicans have governed like RATs. In 2000, the only reason why Bush won was that Scumbag was so repulsive that conservatives rallied to defeat Gore, not to back Bush.
In 2004, conservatives hated Traitor Kerry so much that we rallied to defeat Kerry, not to reelect the fiscal radical Bush.
In 06 and in 08, it will be much, much harder for the Republicans to win, unless the RATs pony up Scumbagette in 08 as the RAT candidate. Should the RATs nominate a halfway normal person in 08, they will win the White House as conservatives have stopped voting for Republicans. We now can only come out to vote AGAINST repulsive RATs. It is impossible to vote any more for a Republican since the Republicans have moved so far left. Unless this RAT candidate in 08 is radical by even RAT standards, we will stay home in 08 (and 06) since Republicans have turned their back on conservatives, on national sovereignty and on "USA first", and have dropped "limited government" from their lingo.
If the Bush cheerleaders would stop the rah rah Bush everything routine and start criticizing the Republicans, then maybe that will give them the wakeup call. Too bad so may Republicans are party cheerleaders--that is helping to destroy this nation and will lead to defeat of the Republicans big time in the upcoming elections.
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posted on
02/01/2006 6:25:49 PM PST
by
Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
(Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
To: VU4G10
(F) on "reducing illegal immigration!Only because there is no lower grade to give them.
46
posted on
02/01/2006 6:28:08 PM PST
by
NeoCaveman
(The era of the stealth candidate is over, 58-42)
To: dubyaismypresident
I remember the days of Reagan being that he was the reason I got interested in Politics. Reagan lifted America up from era of defeatism, were many Americans beat their breast proclaiming how bad we were... A salute to our fallen commander that inspired me to serve..
I also remember the Republicans deriding the deficit, and his listening to the right wing of the party (I guess now it's neocons and such).
Reagan had his mission... It was a much clearer mission to most Americans since it was back by a longer shared history with his fellow Americans... The defeat of Communism...We lost Vietnam to the same disingenuous voices we here today.. Americans hate to lose.. Reagan didn't lose focus by trying to do to much... Deficits went up.. Federal Government expanded... The Soviet Union Fell
Bush has his mission which is much tougher since his domestic enemies our desperate from their loss of power and since many of our Fellow Citizens are new to the threat posed by terrorism.
I want control or our borders, I want less federal government, but I am patient.. The battle is still young... The enemy(Dumbocrats) is in disorder but because it hasn't realized it's true situation it is at it's most dangerous... Let it go through it's death throes...Then border's will be address (Terrorists will come regardless of any border fences or security they have to be defeated in their breeding ground but we need to control immigration for domestic reasons and moral reasons), and government will be brought under control... We have our best long term gift from Bush.. all the Judicial Appointment in his 2 terms... The will be a gift that works as miracles cure to our ailment..
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posted on
02/01/2006 6:52:02 PM PST
by
Zimba
(At the gates we stands let are blades be sharp and our courage sharper!)
To: Zimba
We have our best long term gift from Bush.. all the Judicial Appointment in his 2 terms... The will be a gift that works as miracles cure to our ailment.. No doubt about that one :D
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posted on
02/01/2006 6:56:47 PM PST
by
NeoCaveman
(The era of the stealth candidate is over, 58-42)
To: dubyaismypresident
Yes thinking about it makes me feel so warm inside! :)
Now I only wish I hadn't been so tired that I made so many spelling and grammatical mistakes that someone might mistake me for a great example of our public schools, lol!
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posted on
02/01/2006 7:00:57 PM PST
by
Zimba
(At the gates we stand let are blades be sharp and our courage sharper!)
To: Zimba
"I want control or our borders, I want less federal government, but I am patient.. The battle is still young... "
I want to agree with you, but, I just can't The Senate is expected to take this issue up very soon, and we could very wind up with another Kennedy amnesty, with McCain leading the charge. This is a crucial time in this debate, and for everyone who truly wants to see some action on this issue, this is the time to apply pressure.
The McCain/Kennedy amnesty plan would be a disaster. Kyl/Cornyn, though I still have serious doubts about whether it would ever be enforced, is a much, much better option. If President Bush is closer to the Kyl/Cornyn plan than he is the McCain/Kennedy plan, there is hope. Enforcement, however, is the key.
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posted on
02/01/2006 7:03:10 PM PST
by
SC33
To: Dane
Earth to Dane, even today,
"the basic structure of the Great Society is still firmly intact .... virtually no program has been eliminated." However, PresBush and the GOP controlled Congress has added to the legacy of the Great Society, by creating the trillion dollar Medicare prescription drug program. The largest increase in the federal bureaucracy since Medicare itself was created under LBJ.
So, I don't necessarily disagree with Stuart Butler, but my points were on different issues.
Reagan did want to abolish the Education Department. The liberal Democrats who controlled the House and thereby, controlled the purse strings during the Reagan years, fought the Gipper tooth and nail on his call to abolish the Education Department. Since taking office, however, PresBush has doubled the budget of the Education Department and even allowed FatTed Kennedy to place his stamp of approval on all that new education stuff the Feds are now pushing.
Btw, Stuart Butler was the creator of "enterprise zones". Something Jack Kemp pushed for during the Reagan years. Butler, Kemp and Reagan. Three smart conservatives.
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posted on
02/01/2006 7:16:43 PM PST
by
Reagan Man
(Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
To: SC33
I agree pressure should be applied... McCain/Kennedy shudder.. would be the wrong action.. I believe no one issue can control how we view our relationship with our party.. The pressure is building in this country.. We should support strong conservatives. State governments, Local Governments/Sheriffs Offices, and Judiciary will play an intergral part solving the problem.. As always the Federal Servants of the people will be the last to arrive!
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posted on
02/01/2006 7:18:50 PM PST
by
Zimba
(At the gates we stand let are blades be sharp and our courage sharper!)
To: jammer
even if they are the ones who "brung us." That is awefully arrogant of you to think that conservatives alone elected Bush. Fact is the red states were red, the blue states were blue and the battle was won and lost in about 10 swing states. Basically, whoever won two out of three (florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania) won the election in 2000 and 2004.
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posted on
02/01/2006 8:43:45 PM PST
by
staytrue
(MOONBAT CONSERVATIVES are those who would rather lose to a liberal than support a moderate)
To: Uhhuh35
we want our party to LISTEN for once and DO AS WE WANT Awefully arrogant of you to think it is your party and that they should do as you want.
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posted on
02/01/2006 8:45:47 PM PST
by
staytrue
(MOONBAT CONSERVATIVES are those who would rather lose to a liberal than support a moderate)
To: truth_seeker
If they don't like a particular representative, put money behind a primary alternative. Real simple!! BINGO, all conservatives should vote for the conservative in the primary. In the general election, it is their obligation to vote for the more conservative of the two running and that is almost always the republican.
For some reason, these people think that losing to a liberal is a better idea than winning with a moderate or even winning with pretty conservative candidate who does not follow every hot button issue they care about.
My reaction is that these people are MOONBATS.
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posted on
02/01/2006 8:54:14 PM PST
by
staytrue
(MOONBAT CONSERVATIVES are those who would rather lose to a liberal than support a moderate)
To: Dane
I believe that should read "51 percent of (conservative) donors said they plan to reduce or end their financial support in 2006"
This also means 49 percent of donors will increase or keep the same level of fiscal support.
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posted on
02/01/2006 8:57:38 PM PST
by
staytrue
(MOONBAT CONSERVATIVES are those who would rather lose to a liberal than support a moderate)
To: SC33
If it is change that one desires, the best answer is to help provoke change and/or action from within the Party. The moonbats want the republicans to lose to the democrats so "that will show them who is boss"
I say that is insanity.
If you want the country to become more conservative, kick the dems out of office. The moonbats think having dem beat Chaffee is a good idea, while they won't lift a finger to help Swann beat Rendell.
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posted on
02/01/2006 9:01:50 PM PST
by
staytrue
(MOONBAT CONSERVATIVES are those who would rather lose to a liberal than support a moderate)
To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
Republicans have governed like RATs. In 2000, the only reason why Bush won was that Scumbag was so repulsive that conservatives rallied to defeat Gore, not to back Bush. You are way off base calling gore a scumbag. He's a little wobbly in the head, but he is not a scumbag.
You are also off base about the governing comment. R's have cut taxes, a lot. R's are making the judicial branch much more conservative. R's are improving education, the test scores and graduation rates are much much better. R's are holding the line against the gays and kyoto/enviro whackos.
You don't know the Dean, Pelosi, hillary, kennedy, etc. rats very well if you think the r's governed like the d's.
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posted on
02/01/2006 9:09:52 PM PST
by
staytrue
(MOONBAT CONSERVATIVES are those who would rather lose to a liberal than support a moderate)
To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
If the Bush cheerleaders would stop the rah rah Bush everything routine and start criticizing the Republicans, then maybe that will give them the wakeup call. I'm not interested in bashing the R's or giving a wake up call. I want Ehrlich reelected in MD. I want Steele to take Sarbanes seat. I want Swann to kick out Rendell. I want Santorum to keep his seat. I want 60 plus R's in the US senate.
If you replaced every D in the US senate with a Lincoln Chaffee clone (our most liberal senator), the US would be a fabulous place.
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posted on
02/01/2006 9:13:49 PM PST
by
staytrue
(MOONBAT CONSERVATIVES are those who would rather lose to a liberal than support a moderate)
To: jammer
Sorry, but your memory is extremely faulty. There were "I'M A
TRUE CONSERVATIVE AND REGAN IS DESTROYING CONSERVATISM" types screaming their heads off, when Reagan was president.
The Dems didn't say that; they had no reason to.
If FR had been around back then, there would have been a record of it all, in the archives, but it wasn't. But the same people, who today whinge and whine about President Bush, are the same people ( depending upon their age, of course ), who absolutely were saying the same things about President Reagan.
Just WHAT do you think they were saying, when Reagan gave BLANKET AMNESTY to ALL illegal aliens, when he raised taxes, and on and on?
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