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AAHHH yes the Clinton legacy. It is very sad. I had heard that somebody was going to gear up to make new M-14's. I do know that the Marines have some limited in house capability to assemble. Not sure how much manufacturing they can do.

Well, they can always buy them from the Chinese government, just like the Pentagon is currently doing -- throwing some $20 million tax dollars at the PLA to buy replacement AK47s and ammunition for Iraq. Replacements? To replace what? To replace the millions of dollars worth sitting in storage that we destroyed, of course! (Which we probably bought for Saddam back when he was our "friend".)

I swear, the more I see of this crap, the more haunting are Ike's warning of the "Military-Industrial Complex."

(And not to digress, but I thought that we were promised that the oil would cover the cost of the Iraq "liberation". What ever happened to that deal?)

Final salt in the wound (it's bedtime and I feel like crap), the Chinese "company" we are paying all that money to, to re-arm Iraq -- it's currently under indictment for -- while buddy-buddy with Clinton -- trying to smuggle in thousands of machineguns. The Chinese general involved in the deal (thank God it was an FBI sting operation) suggested selling them to gang-bangers.

So, this Chinese "company", prohibited from doing business in this country, is the beneficiary of this Pentagon deal, in which they will receive over twenty million tax dollars.

What's wrong with this picture?

Damn, there goes my blood pressure again.

PS: To keep this on track, I mentioned the Chinese connection because they do manufacture an M14 "clone". And at the rate things are going, I wouldn't really be surprised if we do end up seeing American soldiers fielding them! Sometimes it seems like "Job One" is to ensure that whenever possible, to whatever extent possible, the Chinese military is financed by the USA.

I remember posting on FR about them destroying all those AK-47's plus ammo in Iraq maybe a year or more ago. It seemed no one was noticing that these weapons were valuable and could be put to use by someone.

The more I see the more I believe they really are just playing us for fools.

For some reason the wanton waste just drives me crazy. Maybe it is my Scottish blood. I recall reading where after WWII we had the British just push hundreds if not thousands of new lend lease aircraft into the ocean.

Then, sure enough, in Korea we needed them and didn't have them.

Final salt in the wound (it's bedtime and I feel like crap), the Chinese "company" we are paying all that money to, to re-arm Iraq

I have read that all the Chinese arms "companies" such as Norinco, Polytech, etc, that sell guns to US marketers are in fact just branches of the Chinese Red Army. IOW, our government is directly paying for building up the Red Army's capability when it buys arms from China.

I don't think those Chinese "companies" can legally sell military type arms such as the SKS and the Norinco 1911 copies on the US civilian market anymore, but they're selling sporting type guns here. I have seen Chinese copies of the old Winchester model 97 shotgun that appear to be pretty well made compared to some of the crude junk that came from China back in the late 1980s and early '90s. I remember seeing Chinese Tokarev 7.65x25 caliber pistols at gun shows back then that looked like they had been made by the 3 Stooges using a hacksaw and a cold chisel.

The Russian 7.62x25 is a high pressure pistol and subgun round. I don't think I would bust a cap with one of those Chinese Tokarevs without wearing full body armor and 1" of shatterproof glass in front of my eyes.