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Oil Bashing, Round Two : How about a windfall pundit's tax on high TV ratings?
Wall Street Journal ^ | 02/01/2006 | Wall Street Journal Editorial

Posted on 02/01/2006 9:55:30 AM PST by SirLinksalot

Oil Bashing, Round Two How about a windfall pundit's tax on high TV ratings?

Public companies typically advertise higher earnings, but such is the politics of energy in Congress these days that Exxon is blitzing the media with ads playing down its record 2005 profit of $36.1 billion. The last time Big Oil reported earnings, industry executives were paraded before the Senate, grilled about high fuel prices and threatened with special taxes--so the reverse PR blitz is understandable.

Of course, Exxon is guilty only of responding to a market need, and its earnings are nothing to apologize for. As a nation, we want energy companies investing in increased production, and Exxon and others currently have the wherewithal to undertake those investments. The worst thing for the economy right now would be to have American oil companies in no better shape than Ford or GM.

SNIP SNIP SNIP

Some of the same politicians calling for these punitive measures also fantasize about "energy independence," while blocking methods to achieve it. Washington Senator Maria Cantwell, for instance, has sent letters to regulators demanding investigations into why there aren't more refineries in the U.S., but she supports restrictions on refineries in Puget Sound. SNIP

This being an election year, we can expect this sort of political posturing to get worse. It's a special shame, however, that some in the media have decided to join the demagoguery in search of higher TV ratings. Not that an economics education is a qualification for punditry. But if windfalls are so terrible, then perhaps these media stars will be good enough to pay higher taxes on any "windfall" ratings they receive from populist TV demagoguery. At least oil companies provide a product we can't do without.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; energy; oil; oilbashing; tax; taxincrease; windfall; windfallprofits
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1 posted on 02/01/2006 9:55:32 AM PST by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot

The ROI (return on investment for those in Rio Linda) for oil companies is right around 8%, which actually is in the low-end of most profitable companies in other industries.


2 posted on 02/01/2006 9:57:30 AM PST by dfwgator
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Thats fine, I can cut my cable service the second I feel it's no longer worth the cost and my family won't go hungry or freeze to death when I do.


3 posted on 02/01/2006 10:10:02 AM PST by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: SirLinksalot
This being an election year, we can expect this sort of political posturing to get worse. It's a special shame, however, that some in the media have decided to join the demagoguery in search of higher TV ratings. Not that an economics education is a qualification for punditry. But if windfalls are so terrible, then perhaps these media stars will be good enough to pay higher taxes on any "windfall" ratings they receive from populist TV demagoguery. At least oil companies provide a product we can't do without.

Probably referring to Bill O'Reilly, who almost always "steps in it" when he opines on economic/military matters - stick to bashing the ACLU, Bill.

Bill doesn't understand the fundementals of commodity trading, that oil/gas are openly traded commodities and that rumors can spark buying/selling resulting in price spikes & troughs.

4 posted on 02/01/2006 10:13:40 AM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: SirLinksalot
Hey, I like that!

I would propose a windfall profits tax on all of Hollywood.
What possible redeeming value does brokeback mountain have anyway?

Hey, they are all screaming about the Bush tax plans, so lets give them a bit of it back.

50% tax on all things Hollywood!
5 posted on 02/01/2006 10:21:16 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: bill1952

Speaking of taxes, the government has generated a windfall of taxes, stste and federal, from high oil prices and oil company profit. It's time for the government to share its record revenues.


6 posted on 02/01/2006 10:25:54 AM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: SirLinksalot

Funny how the talking heads NEVER ask what is the maximum profit as a percentage a company should be allowed to make before "windfall" taxes kick in.


7 posted on 02/01/2006 10:27:37 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: SirLinksalot
Oil Bashing, Round Two : How about a windfall pundit's tax on high TV ratings?

Oh a windfall tax on movies that gross over $50 million. Gee, it just is not fair a movie costs $13 million and rakes in over $100 million. Surely they can afford a 50% windfall tax.

8 posted on 02/01/2006 10:27:49 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Realism
Thats fine, I can cut my cable service the second I feel it's no longer worth the cost and my family won't go hungry or freeze to death when I do.

Do it then .. so you can afford gasoline at a price dictated by supply and demand.

9 posted on 02/01/2006 10:31:02 AM PST by tx_eggman (Unforgiveness is like eating rat poison and expecting the other person to get sick.)
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To: SirLinksalot

Great article!


10 posted on 02/01/2006 10:32:47 AM PST by tfecw (It's for the children)
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To: Realism

As long as you're supporting confiscatory taxes, let's tax the excessive salaries of sports figures, talk show hosts, and the movie industry. Why stop there? We could go for full blown socialism.


11 posted on 02/01/2006 10:34:07 AM PST by Eva
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
time for the government to share its record revenues.

Darn right!

And, I might add, to share it with we the American taxpayers, not the PA or some AIDS in Africa nonsense.

12 posted on 02/01/2006 10:34:38 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: SirLinksalot

I think the Government should TAX everything EXCEPT Income!

An Income Tax is regressive, A SALES TAX is not!

The biggest crime ever commited was allowing payrol withholding from our wages. If Americans had to write a tax check each year MORE would demand a change!


13 posted on 02/01/2006 10:37:56 AM PST by AmericanDave (More COWBELL....................)
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To: tx_eggman
Do it then .. so you can afford gasoline

Sure, when it comes to that. I will devote my life and my wealth (what there is of it) to buying energy.... Actually I've made a few changes in my lifestyle and home that may prolong the need to do that.

14 posted on 02/01/2006 10:46:08 AM PST by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: Eva
To clarify, I'm not for higher taxes, just lower prices.

Besides I'm sure these corporations pay a fair percentage on all of these profits......right?. Right?

15 posted on 02/01/2006 10:56:07 AM PST by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: Realism
Besides I'm sure these corporations pay a fair percentage on all of these profits......right?. Right?

from Exxon Mobil's most recent quarterly report:

4th quarter Income before income taxes: $17,718 billion
4th quarter Income taxes: $7,008 billion

2005 Income before income taxes: $59,432 billion
2005 Income taxes: $23,302 billion

damn, 23 billion dollars in taxes .. aren't FACTS a bitch

16 posted on 02/01/2006 11:25:22 AM PST by tx_eggman (Unforgiveness is like eating rat poison and expecting the other person to get sick.)
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To: Realism

You know what else real ... I'm done. You and I both know your "mind" is already made up.


17 posted on 02/01/2006 11:27:27 AM PST by tx_eggman (Unforgiveness is like eating rat poison and expecting the other person to get sick.)
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To: tx_eggman
39% tax rate. So 5% of the Federal Government's projected expenditures if FY06 are already covered by revenue from Exxon. Can you imagine how much fun it would be if they pulled pitch and left. Or, just did what John Riggins did with the NFL and sit out a year.
18 posted on 02/01/2006 11:32:17 AM PST by .cnI redruM (Shame, not sanctions - UN policy on Iran)
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To: SirLinksalot
Anyone who votes for a windfall tax should have a 50% windfall tax on any income above there previous years income. After all any increase is a windfall.

Oh and while we are at it any senator or congressman who votes against social security reform should have to give up there congressional retirement benefits and get inturn the wonderful benefits of social security alone.
19 posted on 02/01/2006 11:36:23 AM PST by spikeytx86
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To: Eva

I'd settle for a "windfall profits tax" on Hollyweird - any movie that makes back more than 10% above costs gets taxed heavily, and any actor/director/producer who makes above minimum wage (i.e., all of them) gets taxed at a 90% marginal rate. Let's see how Baba Streisand likes that?!?

p.s. I'm really against all such asinine liberal schemes as any "windfall profits tax" but it would be fun to tweak the liberals/RINOs with the scheme above.....


20 posted on 02/01/2006 11:41:01 AM PST by Enchante (Democrats: "We are ALL broken and worn out, our party & ideas, what else is new?")
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