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To: cogitator
I don't mean to be rude, but this idea that we shouldn't drill ANWR is totally ridiculous. Alternative energy sources aren't going to come tomorrow morning, but a war with Iran d@mned well might. When the democraps nixed ANWR drilling they handed the Iranians, gift wrapped, a bigger club to hit is in the head with. When things go south with Iran, and the probably will, if we had drilled ANWR we'd likely see $4/gallon gas. Since we haven't drilled it, expect more on the lines of $7.50/gallon.

It's simple: in the long-term, produce ethanol and biodiesel for cars, nuclear for electricity (forget solar, wind, hydroelectric. They're nice to have, but not workable as a replacement for nuclear or coal. Get used to this). In the short-term, drill ANWR, blow up terrorists, get rid of the iranian president and his psychotic pals.
41 posted on 02/01/2006 11:28:47 AM PST by JamesP81
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To: JamesP81
In the short-term, drill ANWR, blow up terrorists, get rid of the iranian president and his psychotic pals.

Based on everything I've read, ANWR does not come under the heading of "short-term solution". Even if the permits were printed tomorrow, there's still the problem of finding oil, creating infrastructure, creating transport, and bringing the fields on-line. When the issue was hot, the first projection for any oil from ANWR was 5-6 years out, with full production not enabled in at least a decade.

And there's still a question of how much is actually there. Based on the current projections of import needs over the next two decades (which could change if alternatives take hold), maximum ANWR output would only lower the imports by 6%, minimum output by 3%, in 2025. Here's a graph from DOE:

There's a lot that could be done now and in the next couple of years that could have a substantially bigger impact than ANWR oil.

The article says that Ford and GM sell flex-fuel cars in Brazil now -- they could be selling them here in six months. And that's just a start.

42 posted on 02/01/2006 11:38:50 AM PST by cogitator
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To: JamesP81
In the short-term, drill ANWR, blow up terrorists, get rid of the iranian president and his psychotic pals.

Based on everything I've read, ANWR does not come under the heading of "short-term solution". Even if the permits were printed tomorrow, there's still the problem of finding oil, creating infrastructure, creating transport, and bringing the fields on-line. When the issue was hot, the first projection for any oil from ANWR was 5-6 years out, with full production not enabled in at least a decade.

And there's still a question of how much is actually there. Based on the current projections of import needs over the next two decades (which could change if alternatives take hold), maximum ANWR output would only lower the imports by 6%, minimum output by 3%, in 2025. Here's a graph from DOE:

There's a lot that could be done now and in the next couple of years that could have a substantially bigger impact than ANWR oil.

The article says that Ford and GM sell flex-fuel cars in Brazil now -- they could be selling them here in six months. And that's just a start.

44 posted on 02/01/2006 11:39:36 AM PST by cogitator
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