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To: Toddsterpatriot

For purposes of applying for a loan it is useful to call a car an asset. For purposes of planning one's retirement it should not even be pondered. Quit falsifying my point.

Further IRA and 401k contributions can go up or down. It is foolish to count them as savings because they are not 'money in the bank'. The day before Enron revealed its behavior all it's employees were certain they had great 'savings' for retirement. That saving the next day was worthless. Promoting that rationale and basing government policy on volatile 'savings' is stupid.


27 posted on 02/01/2006 9:54:01 AM PST by x5452
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To: x5452
I hate to be a fence sitter, but I believe both of the analyses are pertinent. One provides some perspective to the other.

Now both y'all calm down and be nice :)

30 posted on 02/01/2006 9:58:25 AM PST by Paradox (Liberalism IS a religion.)
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To: x5452
For purposes of applying for a loan it is useful to call a car an asset. For purposes of planning one's retirement it should not even be pondered.

Who pondered that?

Quit falsifying my point.

You had a point?

Further IRA and 401k contributions can go up or down. It is foolish to count them as savings because they are not 'money in the bank'.

Some 401k money is in money market accounts. Can we count that as money in the bank?

32 posted on 02/01/2006 9:59:16 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: x5452
Further IRA and 401k contributions can go up or down. It is foolish to count them as savings because they are not 'money in the bank'. The day before Enron revealed its behavior all it's employees were certain they had great 'savings' for retirement. That saving the next day was worthless. Promoting that rationale and basing government policy on volatile 'savings' is stupid

Then do you mean that, if I put after tax money into a savings account, let it build up, and withdraw it to buy stock, that money ceases to be "savings?" Even the government calculations don't go that far. The only differences between 401(k) equity investments and after tax equity investments are that taxes are deferred on 401(k) investments and are not on after tas equity investments, taxation is somewhat different, and there are a number of restrictions on withdrawls from 401(k) accounts. You're arguing a distinction without a difference.

165 posted on 02/01/2006 1:16:27 PM PST by libstripper
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