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To: Simo Hayha
Redraw the city boundaries. Is Hunters Point still doing navy yard work?

The Hunter's Point naval shipyard closed its doors over 20 years ago. The city and navy are still going round and round about clean-up.
The area is PRIME property and will be fought over for the next 10,000 years.

Naturally, government housing and give-aways are being built for the dwindling minority of African-Americans but it's a lost fight as the city has less that 8% African-Americans now.

FORTY PERCENT of the Sunnydale housing project area, once a notorious slum (Yes, African-American slum) is now Chinese. Harhar.
I was on the bus about 5 years ago, going out to the area with some kids. I was just hanging around, not paying much attention when I heard a woman at the front of the bus YELLING at a guy, obviously her husband, who was way in the back of the bus.
The kicker was that they were Chinese, screaming at each other, ticked off, I think, in Chinese!
I looked around the bus and it was almost ALL Chinese! I almost fainted!
It was SUPPOSED to be full of African-American people! Where did they all go and when did all the Chinese move it?
Very weird sensation, believe you me.

There had been an urban myth that the Chinese wouldn't live where there were African-Americans. WRONG. It the property prices are low enough, the Chinese would move into hell itself. That's what happened in the Sunnydale projects area: African-Americans are still moving out (many to Oakland and farther east in the outre'mer of the bay area) and the Chinese are buying up the slightly-less-than-outrageous-price housing in that once nasty, violent, dangerous, crime and gang-ridden poverty-stricken area.

What's interesting is that area has some of the nicer weather in the city. It has the San Francisco Bay to its direct east, right on the water. Thus the fighting over the real estate, now that many of the sacred/untouchable minority is moving out and replaced by another sacred/untouchable minority.

Homosexuals (yet another sacred/untouchable minority--and an extremely vocal, educated, financially secure, politically positioned and determined one) are moving out there too. They are often the vanguard of first moving into icky areas as they open up.
Truth be known, they DO make the area INSTANTLY nicer with their investment, painting, remodeling, etc.
Those icky areas "open up" as property prices slowly drive out those who made the area "icky."

32 posted on 02/02/2006 7:20:59 AM PST by starfish923 (Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: starfish923
I was there in...1978. Had to think a moment. I believe the yard was...decommissioned?...in '74 and a private contractor was utilized for overhaul of naval ships. The Glomar Explorer pulled in when we were there and they did some work on it, renamed it, and sent her off. We called the area outside the gate 'the combat zone'. They left us alone and we left them alone. A smaller contractor was tearing buildings down when we were there, but there were still quite a few of the large warehouse-type structures left, as well as the newer several story-high barracks building. So I take it that no more drydock work goes on at the site?

They also tested whatever apparatus it is/was that launches missiles from subs. I recall being handed a baton and being asked to "guard" a fence--I don't know what for--I guess against the rats. The quarterdeck watch was within view and I heard this ringing, turned to look toward the sound and saw a nose-cone whosh up out of the area 200-yards away. The quarterdeck watch thought it was a hoot as my eyes must have bugged out or something. The rats were unaffected.

Always thought it strange that a dairy cow was always feeding on the grass near the gate. I've since been told that one way to detect a certain kind of leak or decontamination is to find it in diary milk.

33 posted on 02/02/2006 10:38:54 AM PST by Simo Hayha (My education has never been a burden on me because I've forgotten most of what I've been taught.)
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