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To: Reaganwuzthebest
It's doubtful if it comes back with an amnesty/guest worker attached it'll even get past the conference committee.

I'm not so sure. Jim Sensennbrenner who will head the House negotiating team has come out strongly against any sort of amnesty and made it very clear that it would be unacceptable but if you read his words carefully he all but endorsed a guest worker plan in the mold of Cornyn/Kyl that forces people to apply for guest worker status from outside the country.

Cornyn/Kyl is a world better then the McCainneddy Shamnesty because it does suppossedly require the guest to leave and it provides no path to citizenship for lawbreakers. But it has some really bad stuff in it too. Cornyn/Kyl is still an amnesty in the sense that it does not force people to leave for five years after it goes into effect. It allows UNLIMITED numbers of guests to come every year. And it throws EVERY AMERICAN JOB open to competition and it has no mechanism for protecting the prevailing wage so no matter what your job is you had better be prepared to take a pay cut or train your Indian guest worker replacement. Apparently there are those in the Republican Party who think every job is a job that Americans just won't do. And of course for it to work, it will be dependent on enforcement and our government has yet to demonstrate that they have the political will to make anybody go home.

My bet is that very few guests will ever be made to leave and that any guestworker plan will eventually evolve into an amnesty. I am therefore opposed.

143 posted on 02/01/2006 9:26:27 AM PST by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: jackbenimble
I am therefore opposed.

Same here, I'm opposed to any guest worker program at this point, especially after seeing what H1-bs have done to the tech industry.

Most people who don't have a problem with one now will when their jobs get directly affected, and they can expect that to happen as the corporations are given free reign to send busses down to the border to get their cheap replacements.

Our hope in all this is Kyl\Cornyn won't pass either since the democrats aren't going to support anything that doesn't have amnesty.

Another thing I find curious is the Senate is pushing back debate, they know this is a hot potato and really don't want to deal with it. The closer we get to the election the less chance there is for any guest worker program passing this year.

150 posted on 02/01/2006 9:38:11 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: jackbenimble
My bet is that very few guests will ever be made to leave and that any guestworker plan will eventually evolve into an amnesty. I am therefore opposed.

Ditto.

157 posted on 02/01/2006 9:48:48 AM PST by afnamvet
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