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**Earlier in this thread, I mentioned the death of an in-law relative in my family. That was carbon monoxide. An RN friend advised that while the heart is beating (it was), there is hope to reverse some or all of the carbon monoxide damage. Nevertheless, this person went through the "Harvard Conditions" tests, was adjudged brain dead, and carved up for spare parts -- while her heart was beating.**

Thanks for the information concerning Dr Hammesfhar and the miner, Randy McCoy. When I first heard the news about the procedure they were doing on Randy, I immediately thought of Terri and wondered if it was in fact, the same procedure that she was DENIED by the court and FELOS/SCHIAVO.

I had read your previously post about your family member. I had forgotten the mention of carbon monoxide, though. That's so horrible. She may have been helped just like Randy. Randy only had two hours worth of oxygen, but was not found for at least 36 hours or maybe longer. (I should google this stuff before posting, since I can't remember how long it took to find him.) Bottom line - Randy survived, inspite of the lenght of time without oxygen. From the reports we've heard, he is improving.

I'm so sorry for what you're family had to endure, possibly due to an eager team of organ harvesters. Several months ago, I watched an emergency room show on Discovery or something similar. I think I even posted about this back then. A young man had been shot in the head. He was on a respirator. The doctor told the sorrowful family he would have to determine if their loved one was brain dead. This is how the determination was made: They stopped the respirator and then watched the clock for X amount of minutes. If he didn't start breathing on his own with a specific number of minutes, - HE WAS BRAIN DEAD. That was the extent of testing which was done on this young man. Not enough, imho. He didn't start breathing on his own - the doctor goes to the family and says - he is brain dead. It made no sense to test a person in the manner that was described on that show. Stop the respirator - look at the clock. Some test to use, in this day of so called advanced medical care. Was he an organ donor? Probably.

I'm not saying the young man could have survived a gun shoot wound to the head, but to decide it was hopeless in the emergency room, is outrageous. A side note - a friend of mine's husband was shot in the head and survived. Fortunately for him, the bullet only glazed his head.

Again, so sorry for the loss of your family member. Terri has openned our eyes to the horrors that lurk out there. Knowledge and the truth is essential. I so appreciate all the information that is shared on these threads.