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To: PatrickHenry
In December, a federal judge presiding over another case of Darwin versus faith in a public-school system handed the antimaterialists a defeat so sweeping—in the form of a judicial decision so detailed and so trenchant—that even the most passionate advocates of faith-based science seem stunned and confused about the future of their cause.

The fool who wrote this understands the law and the precedential effect of a federal district court decision about as well as he understands Intelligent Design.

ID is here to stay. The debate has just begun.

173 posted on 02/01/2006 4:38:20 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: JCEccles
The fool who wrote this understands the law and the precedential effect of a federal district court decision about as well as he understands Intelligent Design

I'd say you're right (except the writer is not a fool). Unfortunately for ID, we all understand ID quite well.

176 posted on 02/01/2006 4:40:33 PM PST by Right Wing Professor (When your mind's made up, nothing's more confusing than lots and lots and lots of facts.)
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To: JCEccles
ID is here to stay. The debate has just begun.

You're right. Like poverty, ignorance will always be with us.

178 posted on 02/01/2006 4:42:28 PM PST by narby (Hillary! The Wicked Witch of the Left)
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To: JCEccles
ID is here to stay. The debate has just begun.

John Carew Eccles, hisself, I presume.

Please explain what ID means, or states, concerning the data ID cites for it's inclusion into science. In other words, why do you support ID?

201 posted on 02/01/2006 5:36:58 PM PST by Rudder
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To: JCEccles
ID is here to stay. for sure. Probably undergo a name change though to something like Intelligent Evolution or Sudden Origin Theory The debate has just begun.

from the article:

A month later, the board mandated that starting in January 2005, ninth-grade biology teachers would be required to read to their students a four-paragraph statement encouraging students to look into alternatives to Darwin and suggesting Of Pandas and People (available in the school library) as a good place to start. Even though the new policy did not include active teaching of intelligent-design theory, Discovery Institute fellows issued a warning that the policy went too far and might, in fact, damage the cause rather than further it.

So, first they encourage "teach the controversy" but when the Dover board tries to do just that, DI gets nervous and wants them to chicken out.
Does DI want the controversy taught or was that just a clever but empty slogan designed to promote themselves instead of the so-called new theory?

Any meaningful debate is done. The Iders lost, got caught lying, and thanks to Behe and other experts ie- guys with books to sell, the notion that ID was a valid scientific theory ended up with egg on it's face.

247 posted on 02/01/2006 11:56:52 PM PST by Deadshot Drifter
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