Discovery's Creation [The rise & fall of the Discovery Institute]

Seattle Weekly ^ | 01 February 2006 | Roger Downey

[Dimensio]

I find evolution arrogant and defies the very laws these atheist worship.

But you're a known liar, so why should we care what you say?

[Right Wing Professor]

Well, I'm off to DC, to do the Grand Master's business. Ho ho, only those whose faith in Darwin is strong will receive research funding. The others, pah!

(Obligatory /sarcasm tag)

[longshadow]

Well, I'm off to DC, .....

Enjoy your visit inside the belly of the Beast.

;-)

[furball4paws]

I live at 9000ft in the Sab Juan's of SW Colorado. We rarely get big snows and normally 4-5 ft for the whole winter, but.....

Just ask Big Alferd Packer http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/history/alfred_packer/ Sometimes the snow is so deep here and you get so hungry......

Today's is probably the heaviest in the 10 years I've been here.

[furball4paws]

Sab Juan's

Sab is short for Kemosabe, one of those new Catholic hemi-demi-semi deities.

[highball]

But you're a known liar, so why should we care what you say?

LOL!

Pwned again!

[PatrickHenry]

Well, I'm off to DC, to do the Grand Master's business.

A personal audience with the Grand Master has been scheduled. Your usual suite will be awaiting you, and you will have your choice of several Hollywood starlets who are eager to meet your needs. The janitorial pool have been working overtime to assure that all will be in readiness.

[balrog666]

Many thousands of accounts of miracles are a form of evidence.

Why, sure they are!

[Elsie]

I don't believe I said that.

Not in those exact words, you are right.

You've implied that God allowed them to write things that would later 'prove' to be untrue.

[Elsie]

Nope.

[Elsie]

15" of white fluffy stuff is calling...

You are BLESSED!!

Here in Indiana all we are getting this year is RAIN!

[Elsie]

Ask any lawyer - eyewitness testimony is the least reliable.

There goes our court system!

[Elsie]

;^)

[Elsie]

Michael Jackson: the early years????

[longshadow]

Your usual suite will be awaiting you,...

Most people are surprised to find out that DarwinCentral™ maintains an office & residential complex deep in the heart of infamous "K Street".....

[Elsie]

...no one knows you're a dog on the internet.

Kinda like THIS???

[Diamond]

I have yet to see a creationist or ID'er on here actually address ANY of the ACTUAL SCIENCE presented in one of Ichneumon's posts.

Use "View Replies".

Cordially,

[trisham]

bttt

[unlearner]

"You might also point out the role of common descent in picking out suitable test subjects for certain medical or clinical experiments and trials."

Obviously common descent exists. That is what causes ethnic features to emerge. Wouldn't you expect more recent heritage to have a greater impact than the ancient?

Humanity has a universal common ancestor. Most likely felines have a universal common ancestor. I don't dispute that.

My dispute is with the axiomatic assumption that there was a universal common ancestor of all animals including people.

If common features between humans and animals are helpful for medical research, it really makes no difference whatsoever what caused those likenesses. Whether it was UCD or ID will not change such observable qualities.

How do you falsify UCD? Do you require finding life with no DNA? Do you need life that is not carbon based? I hope your assumption of UCD is based on more than broad general characteristics. What specific characteristics can only be explained by UCD and not ID? What features would exist if UCD is untrue? Besides telling me what we would not find, tell me what we would find if UCD is false.

[unlearner]

"Oh good. I'm glad we've dispensed with the scientific facade. Godidit."

Your axiom - God cannot exist scientifically - fails. You cannot support or falsify your assumption.

Further, there is a fundamental hypocrisy to simultaneously insulting religious faith and maintaining there are some things beyond the scope of scientific knowledge. When evolution proponents talk about things like billions of years, they are describing something which, to a finite mind, is essentially incomprehensible.

Sure we can describe the time mathematically, but we can not grasp its actual meaning. It becomes nothing more than symbolic - no different than a child bragging that they are strong like superman. Evolution proponents attribute billions of years with the magical ability to randomly generate order from chaos, yet they scoff at the notion that cataclysms would routinely annihilate any progress toward order more times than we are capable of imagining.

Don't go mocking what you don't comprehend. You embrace plenty you can't comprehend already. Besides, as I have already challenged repeatedly, I have empirical evidence of God's existence.

The vastness of time and space is the nonreligious metaphor of evolutionists for deity.

I haven't dispensed with science. I just recognize the limitations and foundations of science more clearly. Science is based on faith. You cannot have science without it.