Posted on 01/31/2006 7:18:03 PM PST by jdege
State Has Banned Concealed Weapons For 133 Years
UPDATED: 6:58 pm CST January 31, 2006
MADISON, Wis. -- The state Assembly failed to muster enough votes on Tuesday to override Gov. Jim Doyle's veto of the concealed carry bill.
The 64-34 vote means Wisconsin residents still won't be able to legally carry hidden guns and knives. The Assembly would have needed 66 votes to override the veto.
Two Democrats, state Reps. John Steinbrink and Terry Van Akkeren, changed their votes on the conceal carry issue -- both initially voted for the bill when it first passed the Assembly, but both voted against the override on Tuesday, WISC-TV reported.
Wisconsin is still one of only four states that prohibit concealed weapons. The override would have ended a 133-year ban on allowing Wisconsinites to carry concealed weapons.
The Senate voted to override the veto last week.
A two-thirds majority vote is required to override the governor's veto, so the focus of many Capitol watchers will be on just a few Assembly members whose votes will decide the bill's fate.
Under the bill, state residents who pass firearms training and get permits could carry concealed handguns, knives, billy clubs and electric shock weapons in most public places except for schools, taverns and police stations.
Wisconsin is one of four states that ban the carry of concealed weapons. Gun supporters and Republican legislators have been seeking to change that for years.
Bill sponsors said that it would deter crime and allow law-abiding citizens to defend themselves, their families and their property. Opponents said that the bill will only encourage gun violence and will leave people unsure of whether others around them are carrying hidden weapons.
Support Walker. Green is establishment country-club GOP.
Does that 64-34 vote indicate that everyone voted? The February issue of Gun*Tests has a short shot that suggests that others may have changed their vote,1, or that the vote total indicates all voted and that two republicans not present for an earlier 64-32 vote voted "no".
Names of the senators who voted "NO" to the override. I've been trying to find a list of the assembly (99?) bill passage 64-32 and the override. In three words, the Wisconsin gov site is as much fun as trying to navigate most major city streets during rush hour.
Another was a $200 fee for permit holders. I'm glad the bill died. Meanwhile, WI residents should just carry firearms as if the current ban doesn't exist. Rather be judged by 12...
If you manage to elect a rights-respecting governor, passage next year should be easy.
Seems odd since, in two words, the language I read said a holder could pass through a "school zone" without incuring the wrath of Con. And the fee schedule you have is different than what I read--something about a $52 fee, a $15 fee and an $8 fee for others, range fee and something else, maybe paperwork for $75. Here in Michigan the course was $75, the fee and assorted other costs, passport photo, etc, came to around $125-150 I can't remember exactly. Course fees vary, free enterprise and all. I'm sure the anti-gunners will be working OT to dislodge any elected official who voted in favor of it.
Gronemus, Hubler, Schneider, and Vruwink voted the right way, though democrats. One of 'em is an NRA member, I believe. I'd try concentrating on getting rid of Boyle, Sherman, and Nelson, but you are right, the dems should all go as the vote, with the exception of the above four, all voted party line. Seems to me with the three others (B-S-N) I noted that the people in their district would listen to the letters-to-the-editors that would raise the issue of their vote, their districts being more rural. The northern districts to the east look like they're republican, why shouldn't the districts these three serve to the west be that way as well? There was one republican that didn't vote apparently, one that won in a special election, though at 65, that would have been one short, like the year before as I recall.
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