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To: SpaceBar

you make some exellent comments. again, western nations have deluded themselves on this matter with muslims, muslims otoh have no deluded themselves at all, hence the wot. since even our president cotinually compliments islam, i think it is a recognized religion, but thats for another discussion. the backlash as you so correctly state is due to the complete and utter helpnessness people feel when faced with the reality that islam is intent on other relgions destruction. that is the reality of things. mocking with cartoons is juvenile at best and only serve to give them more confidence, a bad mistake, given the political realites of today. look at iran, she will have her bomb no matter what you do. actually, i have an idea, no one is going to do anything. i will never get used to cartoons mocking others faiths, i believe in freedom of religion and as such refrain from mocking other relgions. when you mention its incompatibility with western democracies, i have to ask you, who let them come here? when you mention they continued mantra of relgion of peace, who tells you that? answer truthfully and you will understand my point.


33 posted on 01/30/2006 11:49:52 PM PST by son of caesar (son of caesar)
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To: son of caesar
"i have to ask you, who let them come here? when you mention they continued mantra of relgion of peace, who tells you that? answer truthfully and you will understand my point."

I will answer. It is Westerners. But they have made very serious mistakes about islam, believing them to be basically peaceful, which has turned out to be dead wrong. The biggest mistake of Westerners has been to learn nothing from islam's merciless, sanguinary history. And I will say that just because islam worships something that does not make them a true religion. They are in fact the antithesis of real religion, which is helping the widows, loving your neighbor, helping the poor, spreading your faith through education and example, NOT by the sword. Islam is evil to the core, and evil is not the definition of 'religion', it is the opposite of religion.

Though I am reminded that great thinkers of the 20th century like Winston Churchill and Hilaire Belloc had both written dire warnings about islam rising again and threatening the West. Unfortunately the liberal/ socialist dupes who infected Europe and the U.S. have been blinded to reality by their unbelievable pomposity and hatred for truth. In other words, the rise of Islam in the West is directly related to the self-inflicted wounding and crippling of Christianity. The modern West has been unable to see the evil of islam because we have not been looking at it through the eyes of faith.

The bloody mohammedans didn't have to conquer us, we have been conquering ourselves by replacing Christ with humanism and science. Meanwhile the enemy has stood by watching like wolves licking their chops. It is no coincidence that the West is under islamofacist attack at a time when Christianity is staggering around in its all time weakest state of faith.

41 posted on 01/31/2006 12:14:03 AM PST by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" Pope Urban II ~ 1097A.D.)
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To: son of caesar; TheCrusader

What TheCrusader said is true and no exaggeration. I would have answered with different words, but with similar meaning. The weakening of Christianity in the west figures greatly. However one may ask why that has occurred in the first place. I believe there are nefarious forces, namely global communism/socialism, perhaps even global business interests who have through every cultural vehicle sold the lie of cultural and moral relativism. The west has been caught off guard by Islam because our sense of true evil has been dulled. Eyes will open eventually, and hopefully before it is too late.


48 posted on 01/31/2006 12:29:49 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: son of caesar

Actually, you are 100% right. We don't want muslims to be angry. They might actually try to kill Westerners or fly highjacked planes into buildings.

News flash. This already has happened and is happening. WaThese cartoons merely point to the fact that many people who are running the muslim world are fanatical zealots who order their followers to blow themselves up.

A religion that runs contrary to Western values deserves to be ridiculed and deserves no reverence.I will not respect a religion that calls me evil. I will mock and ridicule that religion. Whatever Islam is in its most noble form, it should no longer be given a benefit of the doubt. Open you eyes and look at the world and Islam.It is a religion that promotes murder. That is how we see it. If muslims have a problem with that, then they should start spreading peaceful messages.


50 posted on 01/31/2006 12:59:39 AM PST by sangrila
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To: son of caesar
you make some exellent comments. again, western nations have deluded themselves on this matter with muslims, muslims otoh have no deluded themselves at all, hence the wot. since even our president cotinually compliments islam, i think it is a recognized religion, but thats for another discussion. the backlash as you so correctly state is due to the complete and utter helpnessness people feel when faced with the reality that islam is intent on other relgions destruction. that is the reality of things. mocking with cartoons is juvenile at best and only serve to give them more confidence, a bad mistake, given the political realites of today. look at iran, she will have her bomb no matter what you do. actually, i have an idea, no one is going to do anything. i will never get used to cartoons mocking others faiths, i believe in freedom of religion and as such refrain from mocking other relgions. when you mention its incompatibility with western democracies, i have to ask you, who let them come here? when you mention they continued mantra of relgion of peace, who tells you that? answer truthfully and you will understand my point.

Just so that you know, your posts are an EYESORE!

60 posted on 01/31/2006 2:32:07 AM PST by houeto (Mr. President, close our borders now!)
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To: son of caesar
you make some exellent comments. again, western nations have deluded themselves on this matter with muslims, muslims otoh have no deluded themselves at all, hence the wot. since even our president cotinually compliments islam, i think it is a recognized religion, but thats for another discussion. the backlash as you so correctly state is due to the complete and utter helpnessness people feel when faced with the reality that islam is intent on other relgions destruction. that is the reality of things. mocking with cartoons is juvenile at best and only serve to give them more confidence, a bad mistake, given the political realites of today. look at iran, she will have her bomb no matter what you do. actually, i have an idea, no one is going to do anything. i will never get used to cartoons mocking others faiths, i believe in freedom of religion and as such refrain from mocking other relgions. when you mention its incompatibility with western democracies, i have to ask you, who let them come here? when you mention they continued mantra of relgion of peace, who tells you that? answer truthfully and you will understand my point.

My eyes are gushing blood.

75 posted on 01/31/2006 3:35:34 AM PST by Lazamataz (I have a Chinese family renting an apartment from me. They are lo mein tenants.)
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