[Lurking Libertarian]

And since there is such debate over which ones were apes and which were humans, I will go under the assumption that apes were and are apes and humans were and are humans.

And how about the ones which no one can agree whether they were apes or humans, because they have some characteristics of both? What were they?

Can you say "transitionals"? I knew you could!

[mlc9852]

You say they are transitionals. I say they are either one or the other but with the limited information scientists actually have, it's flip a coin - heads, it's human, tails, ape. There are some obvious things we have in common with apes but that doesn't necessarily prove we had a common ancestor. And all the DNA info that keeps getting thrown around, what is the oldest DNA of an ape that they have looked at? Perhaps they are in fact transitional between something and something else. I don't know but neither do you so in the end, it comes down to what someone wants to believe.