[rahbert]

but the bull is not leaving alive, regardless of what happens.

Hate to see people get hurt, but I'd prefer the Portagee
version. PBR is another matter, bulls get points
and a chance to return, refining their skills tossing Moraes off before the buzzer..

[Atlas Sneezed]

but the bull is not leaving alive, regardless of what happens.

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No dispute there. Just like a slaughterhouse.

But I was disputing the notion that the Matador is not at risk.