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Intelligent Design belittles God, Vatican director says
Catholic Online ^ | 30 January 2006 | Mark Lombard

Posted on 01/30/2006 6:37:09 AM PST by PatrickHenry

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1 posted on 01/30/2006 6:37:11 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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2 posted on 01/30/2006 6:38:19 AM PST by PatrickHenry (True conservatives revere Adam Smith, Charles Darwin, and the Founding Fathers.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Well, at least if youre going to read Catholic Online maybe youll learn something about Jesus.


3 posted on 01/30/2006 6:40:50 AM PST by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: PatrickHenry

This is a breath of fresh air. Thanks for posting.


4 posted on 01/30/2006 6:43:14 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: wallcrawlr

If I were Catholic I might consider jumping ship.


5 posted on 01/30/2006 6:46:07 AM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: PatrickHenry

Thanks for posting that. I love the smell of rational thought in the morning!


6 posted on 01/30/2006 6:47:54 AM PST by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: PatrickHenry
He stresses that the theory of Intelligent Design diminishes God into “an engineer who designs systems rather than a lover.”

OK, I kind of like this one. Is it Valentine's Day yet? LOL!!!But this says it better:

“God in his infinite freedom continuously creates a world which reflects that freedom at all levels of the evolutionary process to greater and greater complexity,” he said. “God lets the world be what it will be in its continuous evolution. He does not intervene, but rather allows, participates, loves."

7 posted on 01/30/2006 6:48:43 AM PST by phantomworker (Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool...and don't accuse me of your imagination.)
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To: CobaltBlue
'rational thought'

It smells like primordial slime

8 posted on 01/30/2006 6:50:08 AM PST by The Red Zone
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To: phantomworker
He does not intervene

His Son would beg to differ

9 posted on 01/30/2006 6:51:08 AM PST by The Red Zone
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To: PatrickHenry

I'm Catholic, and I respect Fr. Coyne's scientific contributions, but he is confusing ID and creationism. They are not the same.


10 posted on 01/30/2006 6:54:36 AM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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To: phantomworker

Like He threw some dice then smooched them.

Ugh.


11 posted on 01/30/2006 6:55:48 AM PST by The Red Zone
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I'm still amazed that there are so many people out there who can "see God's hand" in any little natural thing. But somehow in their mind God isn't strong enough, or patient enough, to have done His work over a long period of time.

I believe they worship the words of the Bible more than they worship the God of creation.

12 posted on 01/30/2006 6:55:56 AM PST by narby (Hillary! The Wicked Witch of the Left)
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The Bible says God's character and attributes can be seen in the creation. Ball in your court.


13 posted on 01/30/2006 6:56:49 AM PST by The Red Zone
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To: The Red Zone

You smooch the dice before you throw them, not after! ;^)


14 posted on 01/30/2006 6:56:54 AM PST by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: narby
I believe they worship the words of the Bible more than they worship the God of creation.

I do believe you're right.

15 posted on 01/30/2006 6:58:04 AM PST by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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The Bible says God's character and attributes can be seen in the creation.

Yeah. Science has been describing His creation for several centuries now. I think evolution is one of the most elegant, and powerful creations in nature.

16 posted on 01/30/2006 6:59:56 AM PST by narby (Hillary! The Wicked Witch of the Left)
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Father George V. Coyne, director of the Vatican Observatory

The opinion of a priest. Nothing more or less.

But I did like "Vatican Director" in the headline. Cute.

17 posted on 01/30/2006 7:00:13 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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The opinion of a priest. Nothing more or less.

The opinion of a Freeper. Nothing more or less.

18 posted on 01/30/2006 7:02:43 AM PST by narby (Hillary! The Wicked Witch of the Left)
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three, neo-Darwinian evolution is not in the words of the cardinal, ‘an unguided, unplanned process of random variation and natural selection;

So does he believe evolution was guided and planned? After reading this I'm not entirely sure. But if he believes that evolution was guided and planned then he believes in a designer also.

19 posted on 01/30/2006 7:03:24 AM PST by plain talk
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

I am a Catholic and admit that the hirearchy is a complete disgrace.

It seems that much of Catholic Church leadership is bound and possessed to the rush and fulfill the requirements for the end of times - namely that the Church be reduced to a reminent.


20 posted on 01/30/2006 7:05:59 AM PST by Pittsburg Phil
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