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To: Uncle Sham

I don't think unless people have actually seen New Orleans they can't grasp the magnitude of the problem.

I lived in NO half my life, but even so, looking at the issue from far away, trying to imagine it, it's simply not possible.

Words can't describe it, pictures don't do it justice.

I have read that Bush did not actually tour any of the flood zone. Too bad. They should have driven him through the mile after mile after mile of empty gaping wounds that used to be neighborhoods, used to be houses and are now empty hulks at best, or full of soggy muddy oozy garbage at worse, or collapsed piles of former structures at worst.

The mind reels. It's just too much to comprehend.

There may be a better solution than the Baker plan but I don't see it.

I sure as hell would not rebuild a home or a business in the flood zone until the flood protection is rebuilt, and rebuilt better than before.


8 posted on 01/29/2006 2:25:20 PM PST by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: CobaltBlue

See post 13.


15 posted on 01/29/2006 2:34:08 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: CobaltBlue
" ... I have read that Bush did not actually tour any of the flood zone. Too bad. They should have driven him through the mile after mile after mile of empty gaping wounds that used to be neighborhoods, used to be houses and are now empty hulks at best, or full of soggy muddy oozy garbage at worse, or collapsed piles of former structures at worst. "


Yeah ... and then the President should have reduced Louisiana to a territory, brought in the military, and tossed the politicians in that ex-state into federal jails.

Louisiana isn't a state, it's a criminal enterprise.





20 posted on 01/29/2006 2:40:49 PM PST by G.Mason ("I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is to try to please everyone" -- Bill Cosby)
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To: CobaltBlue
I sure as hell would not rebuild a home or a business in the flood zone until...

Herein lies the problem. There should never be any circumstance that would lead folks to build in flood plains. And if there are circumstances it should not involve my tax dollars.
42 posted on 01/29/2006 3:00:28 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: CobaltBlue

I can grasp the devastation.
I lived thru more than one major earthquake and wildfire in California.

Having said than, I HAD earthquake insurance, and also fire insurance. I knew I had those hazards and I paid accordingly.

If you chose to live BELOW sea level, and have NO FLOOD insurance, then I am completely baffled why and how you can actually stand there and tell me as a taxpayer all my adult life that I should contribute one thin dime to your problem.

You desire to rebuild WITHOUT flood insurance where you were, and when all this happens again, you will stand there and plead again. WRONG wrong, wrong.

The political members of your state squandered monies earmarked for the maintenance of the levees. Go talk to them. You got a "Shrimp Industry Museum" instead of maintenance as well as other things, not to mention the outright graft.

The citizens of Louisiana have spent multiple lifetimes allowing the graft and ineptitude to run rampant for years and years. Reap what you sow.

Now it has come home to roost. 200,000+ people "couldn't get out of NO on their own", and now there are 200,000+ cars scattered all over the city, which they won't move because of ownership and insurance questions. I want to know why the people couldn't get into the cars and DRIVE out of danger.

IF they stayed because they thought they could "RIDE IT OUT", then I say: You got what you deserved. Get on the bucking bull and don't bitch when you get bucked off.

The land in the lowest areas should be bought up at a reasonable value and made into a large park. When it floods again, then it is only flooding the grass/dirt.
Sepulveda Dam Basin at the intersection of Hwy 101 and I-405 is exactly that.

Stay out of my tax-payer pocket. You already have a disproportionate number of welfare collectors there. Leave me and my hardworking brethern alone, please.


80 posted on 01/29/2006 4:57:43 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: CobaltBlue

What should the aftermath of a flood look like? In 1900 Galveston, Texas, was damaged much worse than N.O. and no federal aid was forthcoming, nor expected. It was rebuilt by the people who wanted to rebuild it and it has been a thriving city for over a century since then.

Surely you are not saying Texans are tougher than Cajuns! :-)


93 posted on 01/29/2006 9:19:05 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: CobaltBlue

Got a better idea - don't build your home in a coastal area below sea level.

New Orleans should not be rebuilt. The Port of New Orleans is a strategic necessity, but we can do without the rest of it.

But I'm going to miss Mother's and Brunig's.


208 posted on 01/30/2006 6:49:32 AM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: CobaltBlue
Dear CobaltBlue,

What you see in NO must be horrific, however I am torn with the constant 'government is not doing enough" crap from LA. You didn't hear that coming from Florida nor Mississippi did you?

NOT ANOTHER DIME! You guys need to take responsibility for living in a fishbowl. Rebuild the levies? Why?

Get off it! The port should stay open, the trade no problem, the ghettos of the 9th parish (or the government paid dwellings) forget about them. If we are going to fund welfare housing why rebuild it below sea level?

FLAME AWAY!
221 posted on 01/30/2006 9:29:27 AM PST by poobear (Liberal silence.... never mind. Just a wish.)
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To: CobaltBlue
I have read that Bush did not actually tour any of the flood zone.

Maybe that's because it was UNDER FREAKIN' WATER at the time, genius.

284 posted on 02/03/2006 3:31:53 AM PST by Edit35
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To: CobaltBlue
I have read that Bush did not actually tour any of the flood zone. Too bad. They should have driven him through the mile after mile after mile of empty gaping wounds that used to be neighborhoods,

You may be confusing Bush with Castro, who can snap his fingers and spend millions on anything he wants. What difference does it make whether Bush saw the devastation or not. It's either right to bail them out, or it isn't. I want to know how it is that so many people were uninsured in an area below sea level. Did they just assume the government would bail them out? How different is a single homeowner in New Orleans without insurance than a dumb jerk in Des Moine who doesn't have fire insurance and his house burns down?

321 posted on 02/03/2006 7:12:38 PM PST by Casloy
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