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Mexican soldiers' border crossings in legal limbo
The Daily Bulletin ^ | Jan 29, 2006 | Edward Barrera

Posted on 01/29/2006 11:18:24 AM PST by radar101

Common criminals or major diplomatic incident? Those are the two options the federal government faces if its investigation proves that reports of Mexican soldiers crossing the U.S. border protecting drug shipments are accurate.

Law experts said the basic concept of international law is that every country is a sovereign nation, and that no other country can interfere or invade another's borders without permission.

"The tricky question is whether they are acting in an official or unofficial capacity," said Diane Marie Amann, professor of international law at the UC Davis School of Law. "If all they are doing is being bodyguards to criminals, then all they are are criminals to be dealt with under the U.S justice system."

According to a Department of Homeland Security internal document, Mexican military personnel crossed the border illegally more than 200 times in the past 10 years.

This past week, Texas law enforcement officials said they had an armed standoff on the border 50 miles from El Paso with men wearing military-style uniforms and carrying what appeared to be bundles of marijuana. No one was hurt in the incident, and the men fled back into Mexico.

Mexican officials blamed Monday's incident on drug smugglers posing as military personnel and suggested that it was U.S. soldiers aiding drug dealers.

Both countries have said they are investigating the reports of military incursions, including this week's incident.

"If they were captured by the U.S., Mexico would have to say they have some type of immunity" under international law, said David Caron, a law professor at UC Berkeley. "The privilege only arises if Mexico asserts it. They are only violating international law if in fact they are an agent of the other government."

Mexico denies that it has ordered any personnel across the border.

Greg Siskind, of the nationwide immigration law firm Siskind Susser, said in the 16 years he has been dealing with immigration issues and clients, he has never heard that military personnel were illegally crossing the border. He said he believes if they were indeed Mexican military, they inadvertently crossed the border.

"They obviously made the wrong turn," Siskind said. "It's not a pattern that I'm aware of, and if it is true, then it's been a well-held secret."

Amann said the one example of disregarding sovereignty issues between United States and Mexico was a late 1990s federal government undercover investigation that netted dozens of Mexican bankers in a money laundering scheme. The entire investigation was kept hidden from Mexican authorities until indictments were handed out, she said.

Mexico at first threatened to seek extradition and charge agents involved in the operation, but that was later dropped.

"This could play out the same way depending on the degree of (authentic) military personnel used to conduct criminal activity," Amann said.

The State Department did not return phone calls for this story.

Edward Barrera can be reached by e-mail at edward.barrera@dailybulletin.com or by phone at (909) 483-9356.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; illegalimmigration; mexicantroops; smuggling; terror
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To: radar101

Let's all face it, the incursions have been going on for a long time and will continue.

Let's also face the fact that the State Department does not want to deal with this issue and neither does President Bush.

Nothing to see here, please move along.


21 posted on 01/29/2006 12:47:07 PM PST by RightWinger
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To: radar101
Greg Siskind, of the nationwide immigration law firm Siskind Susser, said in the 16 years he has been dealing with immigration issues and clients, he has never heard that military personnel were illegally crossing the border. He said he believes if they were indeed Mexican military, they inadvertently crossed the border.

Oh, puleeze. Typical lawyer, can't open his mouth without lying. Mexican military has been crossing over the border since they were booted out nearly 200 years ago. How the heck does one inadvertently cross a river, crawl through tunnels, cut through fences, and fire at BP and not know where they are?

22 posted on 01/29/2006 12:51:34 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: digitalbrownshirt
A few years ago there was a video done by a San Diego news show that showed Mexican police driving around in vehicles stolen from the US side of the border.

Not only that but it's well known that anytime you're over there and have an accident, leave the vehicle and find your way back across asap. Of course, many "accidents" are planned by the Mexican government.

23 posted on 01/29/2006 12:57:30 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: radar101

How far have we fallen when lawyers argue about an invasion. These useful idiots will use the same argument if a nuclear bomb goes off. Well was it an attack by foreign country or was it a criminal action. In either case we the dead will still be dead. Why are we not talking about how many troops need to be deployed? Or whether we should shoot first or try to arrest first.
WE ARE BEING INVADED, AND ALL THAT MATTERS IS THAT ARE GOVERNMENT PROTECT US.


24 posted on 01/29/2006 1:02:17 PM PST by Exton1
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To: radar101

Either it is a crime and they can be extradicted by Mexico to the US or they were doing the deed.


26 posted on 01/29/2006 1:37:30 PM PST by dila813
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