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You can try to obfuscate and zig and zag, but all that doesn't change the FACTS that in CA if you are not FOR Arnold, you are FOR the Dems. All of you do everything humanly possible to support and get the Dems elected, as you DEMONSTRATED TANGIBLY, by voting FOR the Dem agenda, by defeating the reform propositions, even turned against Tom McClintock and questioned his integrity, because he and every other REAL conservative supported the reform propositions, which were important steps in the right direction.

In the CA gubernatorial election the choice will be Arnold or the Dem nominee. You are trying to help the Dem nominee by trying to create some useful idiots, who will buy your propaganda, to split the conservative vote, to get your socialist Dem candidates elected.

Did you notice that on the board, there are only the same 3-4 of you that try to make it appear that there is strong support for the Dems, i.e. against Arnold on this board.

From recent posts, it looks like you are a small minority here, most REAL conservatives understand the stakes and the reality.

Most of your posts fall in the "are you that stupid or do you think we are category". I don't think that any of you are stupid, in the least, so you must know exactly what you are doing and must think that everyone else on this board is so stupid, so as not to see through your very obvious inconsistenices and hypocrisy.

Your only consistency is that ALL your positions try to help the Dems get elected and further their agenda -- you did this by helping the defeat the reform propositions and now you are trying to defeat Arnols.

You are even taking up Kerry's "strategy" of trying to claim all these "nuances".

on the ballot, there are NO nuances, you vote yes or no and you voted with the Dems and continue to work against Arnold, to help the Dems get elected.

By your own admission you voted against the propositions supported by Republicans and conservatives. The Dems pulled out all the stops to defeat them and you helped. this is the bottom line. And only the bottom line counts, NOT your nuanced, Kerry-like wiggles.

Judge allows extra union dues to fight Calif ballot Props 75, 76, Nov. 4, 2005
THE CA PROPOSITIONS; Democratic and Republican activists discuss the propositions
Dean urges voters to reject measures governor supports [California]
Davis opposes Schwarzenegger's reform initiatives
CA: Feinstein to oppose Schwarzenegger's special election initiatives
John Alden (Marin cnty Dem Party chairman): Vote no on Prop 76 - we need better leaders
Top Democratic leaders at Penmar Park rally to 'swat' governor's special election measures. Key note speaker: Angelides, Dem candidate for governor
Liberal groups (Moveon.org) try to link special election to broader GOP agenda
Open letter from Phil Angelides (opposing Schwarzenegger and the Propositions)
McClintock's recommendations for CA Propositions
Summary of Recommendations on the CA Propositions by various organizations and parties
CA: McClintock stumps for governor's ballot initiatives
Ad watch: McClintock in radio spot supporting Prop. 76 (includes actual text)
Supporters of the CA Propositions 74-77 include CA Club for Growth, Howard Jarvis Taxpayer Association, Ray Haynes, San Fernando Valley Town Hall Conservatives, Republican Party, and many others. Click on the link for a more comprehensive list.
And you can see from links above who are the ones opposing them: Democrats, Unions, Gray Davis, Howard Dean, Phil Angelides, MoveOn.org, various Dem party chairmen, etc.