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To: A. Pole; sasportas

You answered your own question. Karaites quit the team a long long time ago and refused to accept Rabbinic law, the Talmud. Therefore, they do not practice Judaism. Judaism IS Torah Written Law plus (Rabbinic) Oral Law. That is the definition of Judaism. Anyone who doesn't accept the 13 principles of Faith is off the team. Torah refers to Oral and Written law.


14 posted on 01/29/2006 1:32:30 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
You answered your own question. Karaites quit the team a long long time ago and refused to accept Rabbinic law, the Talmud.

It is matter of debate. Karaites put the Old Testament before Talmud/Rabbinic law and consider themselves Jews.

Would you say that Protestants are not Christian because they put Bible above the Church tradition and commentaries?

15 posted on 01/29/2006 1:37:45 PM PST by A. Pole (" There is no other god but Free Market, and Adam Smith is his prophet ! Bazaar Akbar! ")
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Anyone who doesn't accept the 13 principles of Faith is off the team

Those are per http://www.jewfaq.org/beliefs.htm, as follows:

  1. G-d exists
  2. G-d is one and unique
  3. G-d is incorporeal
  4. G-d is eternal
  5. Prayer is to be directed to G-d alone and to no other
  6. The words of the prophets are true
  7. Moses's prophecies are true, and Moses was the greatest of the prophets
  8. The Written Torah (first 5 books of the Bible) and Oral Torah (teachings now contained in the Talmud and other writings) were given to Moses
  9. There will be no other Torah
  10. G-d knows the thoughts and deeds of men
  11. G-d will reward the good and punish the wicked
  12. The Messiah will come
  13. The dead will be resurrected

17 posted on 01/29/2006 1:46:29 PM PST by bvw
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To: Cinnamon Girl

>Judaism IS Torah Written Law plus (Rabbinic) Oral Law. That is the definition of Judaism.

I thought their sacred book was the bible.

What is torah, anyway? I've never read the torrah itself. Only heard of the name torrah.


19 posted on 01/29/2006 1:51:45 PM PST by TheBrotherhood
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