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Can brain say if you're lying?
The Seattle Times ^ | January 29, 2006 | Malcolm Ritter

Posted on 01/29/2006 10:11:30 AM PST by neverdem

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1 posted on 01/29/2006 10:11:32 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

I don't believe polygraphs, I'm not gonna buy this.


2 posted on 01/29/2006 10:12:48 AM PST by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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"I'd use it tomorrow in virtually every criminal and civil case on my desk" to check the truthfulness of clients, said attorney Robert Shapiro

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

3 posted on 01/29/2006 10:14:27 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: neverdem
Brain Scans As Lie Detectors?
4 posted on 01/29/2006 10:15:53 AM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: neverdem

Okey dokey, so how does it distinguish between those who believe their lies and those who feel guilty when innocent?


5 posted on 01/29/2006 10:18:27 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: Indy Pendance

Thanks for the link!


6 posted on 01/29/2006 10:19:48 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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Even at this device's estimated 90% accuracy it would still be problematic. Until we reach the accuracy levels of DNA testing, this should never be allowed in court. 1/10 being wrong is not that great.


7 posted on 01/29/2006 10:24:13 AM PST by ozoneliar ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)
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To: atomicpossum

The National Socialists used to measure people's skulls to determine their viability...

Hmmmm...


8 posted on 01/29/2006 10:29:50 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: neverdem

You're welcome. I thought this was an interesting article and you'd like to see additional comments. Something coming to a scan near you, perhaps?


9 posted on 01/29/2006 10:47:53 AM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: atomicpossum
I don't believe polygraphs

They exist. I've seen them.

Oh, you don't trust them....

...nevermind.

10 posted on 01/29/2006 10:52:02 AM PST by SC Swamp Fox (Bush lied, people dyed....their fingers.)
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Even at this device's estimated 90% accuracy it would still be problematic. Until we reach the accuracy levels of DNA testing, this should never be allowed in court. 1/10 being wrong is not that great.

Don't be surprised with where they take this technology. Eventually, I believe a case on its admissability as evidence will go before the U.S. Supreme Court.

Men hungrier for revenge than women, brain scan study reveals

Empathic neural responses are modulated by the perceived fairness of others The last link is the Nature article in a pdf format that's the basis for the article about men and revenge.

11 posted on 01/29/2006 10:59:17 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: atomicpossum
I don't believe polygraphs, I'm not gonna buy this.

Ditto

12 posted on 01/29/2006 11:12:25 AM PST by Fiddlstix (Tagline Repair Service. Let us fix those broken Taglines. Inquire within(Presented by TagLines R US))
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"Okey dokey, so how does it distinguish between those who believe their lies and those who feel guilty when innocent?""

Didn't take long to sink this deal. lol! exactly correct.


13 posted on 01/29/2006 11:40:01 AM PST by lrb111 (Minutemen - Doing jobs the White House won't do.)
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To: neverdem

A scan wouldn't be any more useful than a polygraph if the person being scanned is a pathological liar who believes his own bulls*** or has sociopathic tendencies.


14 posted on 01/29/2006 11:54:09 AM PST by Texan5 (You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line..)
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A scan wouldn't be any more useful than a polygraph if the person being scanned is a pathological liar who believes his own bulls*** or has sociopathic tendencies

Bill Clinton couls have passed easily.

15 posted on 01/29/2006 12:00:02 PM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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could


16 posted on 01/29/2006 12:00:26 PM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: neverdem

Put everyone in the FBI, CIA, and NSA through this.

A thousand spys will be revealed.


17 posted on 01/29/2006 12:05:05 PM PST by MonroeDNA (Look for the union label--on the bat crashing through your windshield!)
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To: neverdem
I have been told that you can lie to a polygraph if you know the trick, and have found out that you can. this will be no different, you will just have to learn the trick.
18 posted on 01/29/2006 12:13:55 PM PST by 20yearvet (they yell for more test as long as its your money)
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X42 is no doubt a polygraph technician's worst nightmare...


19 posted on 01/29/2006 12:47:17 PM PST by Texan5 (You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line..)
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To: neverdem

No ping? I just found a blurb in my paper and was going to ping you on this. DARPA and NIH have been working in fMRI research.

http://www.brainwavescience.com/

http://www.noliemri.com/

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.01/lying.html?pg=2


20 posted on 02/02/2006 8:43:04 PM PST by endthematrix (None dare call it ISLAMOFACISM!)
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