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Frist: Gov't Unwanted in End-Of-Life Cases
AP on Yahoo ^ | 1/29/06 | AP

Posted on 01/29/2006 10:06:22 AM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: meema; HairOfTheDog

Time for me to leave as well...supper looms ever nearer...Its just barely near 8pm here, and we always eat very late...perhaps we can one day meet on a general thread about end of life issues...hope for that, but not really hopeful that it will happen...


281 posted on 01/29/2006 7:43:00 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: verity
They started to discuss the broader implications of the Frist statement and were immediately confronted with the Schiavo scenario.

11 of the paragraphs in the article refer to the Schiavo Case. Only one paragraph doesn't.

It's logical to think posters would discuss her case.

282 posted on 01/29/2006 7:43:39 PM PST by syriacus (Help plan John Kerry's Fillet-Bluster at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1566194/posts)
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To: NormsRevenge

If government can't protect a woman from being murdered by her adulterous husband...what use is it?


283 posted on 01/29/2006 7:46:17 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: andysandmikesmom

Oh my goodness! I hope he went to jail, too.
Didn't he make more money off Medicare by prolonging the deaths of his patients as well?
What a terrible, terrible man.


284 posted on 01/29/2006 7:46:51 PM PST by meema (I am a Conservative Traditional Republican, NOT an elitist, sexist , cynic or right wing extremist!)
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To: meema
I can only repeat, Americans do not want the government involved in such end-of-life decisions.

Please explain what you mean. Your statement is very general.

285 posted on 01/29/2006 7:47:31 PM PST by syriacus (Help plan John Kerry's Fillet-Bluster at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1566194/posts)
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To: andysandmikesmom
e both can discuss what we wish to, with those that we wish to...and all are happy...

Sure. I didn't mean to offend you by discussing the article.

286 posted on 01/29/2006 7:50:10 PM PST by syriacus (Help plan John Kerry's Fillet-Bluster at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1566194/posts)
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To: HairOfTheDog

I took it to be a "Frist reconsiders his earlier position about government involvement" thread, too.
That seemed to me to be the 'news' in the story. Everything else was just 'catch-up', as in background.


287 posted on 01/29/2006 7:50:29 PM PST by meema (I am a Conservative Traditional Republican, NOT an elitist, sexist , cynic or right wing extremist!)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Many in this debate have said a lot of things that are untrue.

I noticed the same thing, myself.

288 posted on 01/29/2006 7:52:30 PM PST by syriacus (Help plan John Kerry's Fillet-Bluster at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1566194/posts)
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To: meema

You know, I never considered that...but you are right...the man would have made more money, I suppose, if he could prolong my dad for as long as he could....good catch there...

My dad died before my mom...I never again did take my mom to that doctor for general care...I found her a better GP, one who would abide by her wishes...and when I brought her up to live with me, she went to another different GP, who also said he would abide by her wishes...if the doctor, thinks he is God, and tries to substitute his wishes for his patients wishes, then he is of no use to me...

Aside from being a doctor who wished to substitute his own wishes for his patients wishes, he was a crook...and who knows how many others he tried to coerce, and was successful with, thereby assuring more money in his pocket...thats a good question...I need to have my aunt look into that tho since this was several years ago, I doubt she would meet with any success...

Still, what you theorize, makes absolute sense...prolong the dying phase, to collect more money, and double money actually owed...what a crook...


289 posted on 01/29/2006 7:53:10 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: andysandmikesmom; HairOfTheDog

Perhaps we could do a 'Chat' thread sometime? I don't know how to start one, but if any of you do, or find one, please ping me.

You do eat late. Has the sun set by now?
Have a good evening.


290 posted on 01/29/2006 7:54:57 PM PST by meema (I am a Conservative Traditional Republican, NOT an elitist, sexist , cynic or right wing extremist!)
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To: andysandmikesmom
need to have my aunt look into that tho since this was several years ago, I doubt she would meet with any success...

Please let us know what you find out.

291 posted on 01/29/2006 7:55:19 PM PST by syriacus (Help plan John Kerry's Fillet-Bluster at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1566194/posts)
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To: meema
Everything else was just 'catch-up', as in background.

11 out of 12 paragraphs

292 posted on 01/29/2006 7:57:55 PM PST by syriacus (Help plan John Kerry's Fillet-Bluster at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1566194/posts)
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To: meema

I dont know how to start a thread, I just get onto others threads...

I am up in the Pacific Northwest...its just a little before 8pm....we usually eat dinner between 8pm-9pm...thats because we have always been 'night workers', and 'day sleepers'....even tho we are both retired, we have maintained our old ways, and stay up much of the night, and sleep very, very late...hence our dinner time always seems late to others...but when you eat breakfast at 11am, dinner at 8pm is appropriate...

Its chilly, rainy, windy and pitch black here now...winter in the Pacific Northwest is always like that...

Have a good evening yourself...


293 posted on 01/29/2006 7:58:38 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: syriacus

I will certainly let folks know what happened, if I can find out...this was at least 10yrs ago, and my aunt is now in her 80s and has somewhat failing memory...still, I will try to find out more if I can...


294 posted on 01/29/2006 8:00:12 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: syriacus

Check post #3, which I repeated.
It came originally from Sen. Frist this a.m. on Sunday talk show.


295 posted on 01/29/2006 8:02:04 PM PST by meema (I am a Conservative Traditional Republican, NOT an elitist, sexist , cynic or right wing extremist!)
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To: andysandmikesmom

After what you went through with your Dad, you must have felt so much better while caring for your Mom, to have a GP who knew what she and you wanted for her.
Yes, I remember that you live in the Pacific Northwest, it sounded so beautiful.

Goodnight, now.


296 posted on 01/29/2006 8:08:20 PM PST by meema (I am a Conservative Traditional Republican, NOT an elitist, sexist , cynic or right wing extremist!)
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To: meema

Amen!


297 posted on 01/29/2006 8:12:24 PM PST by Hildy (The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth)
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To: syriacus

Well, I did a google search on this Dr. and came up with nothing...I will have to call my cousin, who takes care of my aunt now, and see if she can contact the local newspaper of where my aunt and parents lived, and see if they have an archives section that would send me a copy of any news articles they have regarding this awful doctor...the newspaper article that my aunt sent me at the time, was about his doctor, and what he had done, and how he was caught double billing Medicare, and how it had been going on...

Hopefully there will be some follow up on the Dr. and I can find out what the outcome was...


298 posted on 01/29/2006 8:16:26 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: Hildy
Amen!

I thought so! Have to go to bed now...

:)

299 posted on 01/29/2006 8:17:31 PM PST by meema (I am a Conservative Traditional Republican, NOT an elitist, sexist , cynic or right wing extremist!)
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To: meema
I see that post # 3 did repeat that 1 sentence from the 12 paragraphs.

I still don't understand why those of us, who mentioned Terri in some (not all) of our posts were made to feel we shouldn't mention her.

300 posted on 01/29/2006 8:28:18 PM PST by syriacus (Help plan John Kerry's Fillet-Bluster at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1566194/posts)
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