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To: caffe
But the limited time allows probability to make powerful scientific arguments against evolution.

No it doesn't. You can only calculate probabilities when you understand the processes. If you are attempting to calculate the probability of a chain of events you must know what each event is and what the probability is of each event.

Since no one knows the chain of events leading to life, no one can calculate the probability.

If you attempted to calculate the probability of your own birth, using the methods employed by ID advocates, you would find your own existence impossibly improbable. And yet, there you are. It's kind of foolish to bet against something that has already happened.

It make more sense to assume it happened and to research the chain of events, attempting to replicate each element.

80 posted on 02/08/2006 9:23:20 AM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: js1138

I think you should try and take my whole post "in context"
i've read alot of the same old inventive anthropic principle which is always being re-invented. Hawking said "We see the universe the way it is because we exist" "the universe has properties we observe today because if its earlier properties had been different, we would not be here as observers. This cosmological analysis is given a false scientific place and called the anthropic principle. I've even heard "the universe is the way it is because we are observing it. This misleadingly sounds as though "observation" affects the universe somehow. But again, the anthropic principle is NOT science , evolutionists created the illusion that it is.
It is a tautology. If I said all tables are tables, you can obviously see its circular form. It is always true and cannot ever be untre.
But these tautologies are not about the empirical world. It explains nothing about our observations.
They masquerade as though they convey knowledge and information. They convey none.
Why does the universe have such highly iprobably properties? Answer. It's just a matter of random chance - there are countless other universes lacking those properties.
This argument tries to "dilute" nature's design by adding other universes that lack design. The more improbable the observed designs are, the more "other universes" must be added to make the dilution effective.
So this argument claims that on the average nature has no design, no favor toward life or humankind.
I would call this the "Many Universes scenario"
BTW, this is not even an hypothesis because it is not testable.

I grow so tired of this junk science


81 posted on 02/08/2006 9:45:36 AM PST by caffe
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