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1. You're probably right, I probably should know you by now. But I really don't. Sorry.

Oh, well. More's the pity.

2. No, you're mistaken: it doesn't contradict logic in any way. Or if it does, you've not demonstrated it.

That Man was created first and the Universe created around him means that the complex was created to serve the simple. In physics, systems tend to simplify, not complicate. They degenerate into disorder; they do not order themselves. Your system would have to adapt all emergent features to conform to the existing one: the simplest one. That would require that each of those emergent features become more and more complex, as each would have to accommodate not only Man, but all the preceding features. In other words, you've built a logical pyramid that stands on its apex, not its base. It is the very antithesis of logic.

Copernicus was asked to demonstrate how the planets revolved around the earth. He managed to do so, but only by contorting logic until it broke. He then took the simpler route, that the planets orbited the sun, not the earth. Although deemed heretical, the simpler theory proved true.

3. No, you're mistaken again: it doesn't contradict creationism. The pattern of the six days of creation (which I take to be six historical, common-sense-of-the-word days, relatively recent) is form and fullness. Day one, light; day four, light-bearers; day two, sky and water; day five, birds and marine life; day three, dry land; day six, animals and man to live on the dry land.

So God was preparing the world for man, the crowning act of creation.

But Man was NOT created first, then the universe wrapped around him. In fact, from the Genesis account, it would almost seem that Man is an afterthought, someone God thought useful to share His Creation and to glorify Him.

The gist of this article is that Man caused the universe to be created, and that all the order in the universe conforms to Man's needs. Aside from the fact that that is patently untrue -- most of the universe is overwhelmingly hostile to Man -- it also requires that Man existed somehow before there was anywhere (or anyWHEN for that matter) for him TO exist.