Posted on 01/29/2006 6:51:06 AM PST by Uncle Sham
That is my question exactly. The government doesn't bail out those in PA who have homes that flood each spring, or those in tornado ravaged areas. We have homeowners insurance and we rebuild. Why is Louisiana any different?
If you read my whole post in #114 I also said have an independent council or agency approve the spending. By that I mean approve expenditures BEFORE they are released.
Let them try.
They had better remember all those sugar subsidies Landrieu screwed the "American People" over with, just to get re-elected. It's not as if any of those damn politicians had Louisiana's best interest in mind in the first place. What makes them think they do now?!
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We can start here.
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Sen. Landrieu, like many Louisiana politicians, opposes a recent move to phase out import quotas on sugar.
Landrieu's efforts to "protect" sugar
American farmers no longer can earn sufficient profit from sugar. But rather than switch to more profitable crops, these farmers lobby Congress to restrict imports from foreign countries or levy tariffs to make foreign sugar uneconomical. As a result, they prolong their precarious positions, and Americans pay two to three times what the rest of the world pays for sugar.
Louisiana sugar producers have been protected by tariffs almost continuously since 1816. Import quotas on sugar have existed since 1934, except for one eight-year break that ended when President Reagan re-established them in 1982.
Sen. Landrieu -- and almost every other Louisiana politician -- opposes the Central American Free Trade Agreement, a plan that would double import quotas for sugar but take 15 more years to do it.
I find it hard to believe that someone could live that close to the coast and to a levee and not purchase flood insurance. I have it and I'm not in a designated flood area, however there is a lake and a creek nearby so I am not willing to take chances.
Or ask that hundreds of billions of tax dollars be used to remediate natural hazards instead of just setting up the bowling pins for nature all over again.
Hold on for a second. The people of Lousiana elected their representatives (i.e. corrupt politicians) year after year after year. The representatives received untold millions of federal tax dollars specifically for levee maintenance and and repairs. That money was negligently (and probably illegally) spent elsewhere. In the meantime, thousands of homeowners failed to buy flood insurance, purely to save a few bucks every year. And you are trashing the President because of Lousiana's self-inflicted wounds and demands for other US citizens pick up the tab?
I don't think so Tim.
You're full of it. Your screen name is well chosen.
Having a plan, and having a good plan are two drastically different things.
This bill, if put into action would help these normal (just like you and me) folks buy time for themselves and free them from what they are dealing with. You won't be paying the bill for this, the ones who redevelop the property will. What's wrong with this?
BTW, on the subject of self-help, what's wrong with Louisiana financing it's own recovery through taxation on oil and gas use of our coastline? Do you want oil and gas rigs off the coast of North Carolina?
Don't alter the original title of articles. Thank you.
No argument there but the President said we didn't have a plan. If he just came out and said he didn't like the plan I could respect that.
Since when are we talking about your home state of Illinois? Or Chicago, or the Daley family, or Rostenkowski, or etc. etc. etc.
If we are talking about House bill 4100, I don't think the bill talks about a loan. It buys the property, fixes it up, then sells it. An excerpt from HB 4100 on how it will acquire property (including the first right of refusal)
SEC. 6. PROPERTY ACQUISITION AUTHORITY AND METHODOLOGY.
(a) IN GENERAL.Pursuant to section 5(b), the Corporation shall negotiate to acquire title to real property and compensate any property owner, mortgagee or primary lien holder with an interest in such real property.
(b) PURCHASE OFFER FOR REAL PROPERTY SECURED BY A LIEN.The Corporation shall take into consideration the following in constructing offers of compensation for the acquisition of real property secured by a lien:
(1) The Corporations expenses to improve the property for sale and development.
(2) The Corporations anticipated return upon the propertys disposition.
(3) The post-event fair market value of the property.
(4) The remaining principle balance of any outstanding mortgage.
(5) The potential for economic recovery of the mortgagee.
(c) PURCHASE FROM OWNER.The Corporation shall take into consideration the following in constructing offers of compensation for any real property where no lien secures such real property:
(1) The Corporations expenses to improve the property for sale and development.
(2) The Corporations anticipated return upon the propertys disposition.
(3) The post-event fair market value of the property.
(4) The potential for economic recovery of the property owner.
(d) RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL AND OPTION TO RE-PURCHASE REAL PROPERTY.
(1) IN GENERAL.Subject to paragraph (2), the Corporation shall ensure that any entity awarded a contract under Section 7 shall grant a right of first refusal and option to obtain an interest in real property of comparable size and location in redeveloped areas to any party previously holding title.
(2) GUIDELINES FOR EXERCISE.The Corporation shall
(A) ensure that the right of first refusal and option to obtain an interest in real property that are granted pursuant to paragraph (1) are granted before the real property is listed for public sale; and
(B) shall establish guidelines to provide that any party receiving the option to obtain an interest in real property is given adequate time to consider and exercise such option.
(e) RIGHT TO RETAIN AN INTEREST IN REAL PROPERTY.
(1) PROPERTY OWNER OR MORTGAGEE RIGHT TO RETAIN INTEREST.The Corporation shall offer any property owner or mortgagee an option to retain an interest in real property of comparable size and location, subject to the following conditions:
(A) The Corporation shall pay no compensation to the property owner or mortgagee.
(B) The property owner or mortgagee shall compensate the Corporation for expenses to improve the property for sale and development when such property owner or mortgagee obtains construction financing for development of property.
(2) REQUIREMENT TO DEVELOP PROPERTY. Any property owner or mortgagee exercising a right to retain interest in a property shall
(A) obtain construction financing within 90 days of notification by the Corporation that the area in which the property owner or mortgagee retains an interest is available for development; and
(B) complete construction of a replacement residential or commercial structure, as applicable, within 2 years of a notification pursuant to subparagraph (A).
(3) FAILURE TO DEVELOP.If the Corporation certifies in writing that a property owner or mortgagee has failed to comply with the requirements of paragraph (2), the Corporation shall exercise its authority pursuant to Section 8(c).
(f) LIMITATION ON PAYMENT AND PROHIBITION AGAINST WINDFALL.In general, in constructing and extending offers to acquire real property under this section, the Corporation shall ensure that
(1) in no case may the cumulative payment by the Corporation to any individual for the purposes of acquiring real property exceed $500,000; and
(2) in no case may any person be the beneficiary of a windfall gain as a result of any purchase offer extended by the Corporation.
I think my biggest problem with the bill is how is it actually going to determine the amount to be paid for each property. It is too general for my tastes. The less specific it is the more chance of abuse.
I am not saying that I don't want to help my fellow citizens, I am saying this bill is a good place to start, but I need more information on cost and more detail on the guidelines for how it is going to be implemented.
Yep. Thats not to say Americans as individuals shouldn't help out on a voluntary basis, charities etc., but its not the job of the federal government to force the rest of the nation get Lousiiana's act together.
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Typically, the Corp goes through a bidding process and are required to take the lowest responsible bidder and award the work to a contractor. While the Corp usually provides some project managment oversight, shoddy construction is usually blessed off by the local inspectors. How do contractors typically skimp on costs? They pay off the local inspectors to look the other way when a 30' underground foundation only goes down 15 feet. So before blaming the Corp., maybe you should find out who built the levees and find the polical connections of that company to the local political machine.
There you go; and it's just a start.
Free sugar from the monpolies of Louisiana!!!
This has to be the most idiotic statement I've read on this thread. The state of Louisiana is responsible itself. Most things DON'T ALWAYS stop at the federal level, they stop at the state level. Thats why states have their own laws, courts and constitution. Maybe if the good citizens of Louisiana knew this before Katrina hit, they wouldn't be in the shape they are now - one hand sticking out looking for a handout, the other hand with a gun to the head of the US taxpayers demanding a handout, while Mr. Chocolate and the Edith Bunker look-alike run around clueless.
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