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1 posted on 01/29/2006 6:40:25 AM PST by SJackson
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PB is an idiot.


2 posted on 01/29/2006 6:40:59 AM PST by SampleMan
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From the moralist who stands with Islam against Hollywood and Hillary. And Bush and Israel.

"So, how do we advance the cause of female emancipation in the Muslim world?" asks Richard Perle in "An End to Evil." He replies, "We need to remind the women of Islam ceaselessly: Our enemies are the same as theirs; our victory will be theirs as well."

Well, the neoconservative cause "of female emancipation in the Muslim world" was probably set back a bit by the photo shoot of Pfc. Lynndie England and the "Girls Gone Wild" of Abu Ghraib prison.

Indeed, the filmed orgies among U.S. military police outside the cells of Iraqi prisoners, the S&M humiliation of Muslim men, the sexual torment of their women raise a question. Exactly what are the "values" the West has to teach the Islamic world?

What some of us view as the moral descent of a great and Godly republic into imperial decadence, neocons see as their big chance to rule the world.

conservatives reject the "equality" preached by Gloria Steinem, Betty Friedan, NARAL and the National Organization for Women, why seek to impose it on the Islamic world? Why not stand beside Islam, and against Hollywood and Hillary?Buchanan Asks, "What Do We Offer the World?"


3 posted on 01/29/2006 6:41:48 AM PST by SJackson (elected members of Hamas: businesspeople, professionals, not terrorists. Scott McClellan)
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I think sign language will do, middle finger up, then NO SOUP FOR YOU!


4 posted on 01/29/2006 6:43:25 AM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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More insular isolationism from Buchanan.


6 posted on 01/29/2006 6:46:14 AM PST by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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Islamism was the status quo in Palestine. Things are just now defined.


7 posted on 01/29/2006 6:48:31 AM PST by Tribune7
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The neoconservatives...

LOL! I LOVE it when you can get the entire drift of an article within the first two words...

We owe a debt to Liberals...they are so one dimensional and transparent that you can finish an entire rant for them after hearing their first two words!

10 posted on 01/29/2006 6:51:52 AM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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By the way...I am aware of who and what Buchanan is...the point is he is taking on the hallmarks of moonbat liberals.


12 posted on 01/29/2006 6:54:10 AM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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Pat makes good points, particularly the population projections (look at the ones in France!). Pat has no answers for the problem. He seems to imply that the US needs to negotiate with Islamic radicals. NO, NO and NO.

The alternative to elections is corrupt regimes like Arafat and Saddam. Elections may elect Hamas this time, but Hamas may go out of favor if they cannot deliver--any they won't deliver anything but violence.

Elections do give the people a voice, however misguided that may be. Leaders need the support of the people to make peace, and until the Palestinians elect a leader that wants peace. Peace will be only a dream.
13 posted on 01/29/2006 6:55:26 AM PST by GeorgefromGeorgia
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I'm afraid Mr. Buchanan is getting old and senile. apparently he has no recollection of 9/11!!!


14 posted on 01/29/2006 6:55:35 AM PST by KenmcG414 (wHAT'ST)
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Bush can talk to Hamas allm right.

"No money till you clean up your act...aoh, ahhhm telling my friends to tell you the same...CLICK"


15 posted on 01/29/2006 6:56:04 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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the Bush Doctrine -- promoting "democracy" would be the U.S. mission in the Middle East

Pat, Pat, Pat. You're a great guy, and truly one of America's political "characters." But you're also erudite enough to remember that the Bush Doctrine is that America will pursue terrorists wherever they live, hide, and breed, and that we will make no distinction between the terrorists and the nations that harbor them. There's no mention in there about "promoting democracy in the Middle East" as part of our mission.

17 posted on 01/29/2006 7:12:16 AM PST by IronJack
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Islam leads to Islam. Hamas winning the elections may not be as bad as we think. Now Hamas has to prove that it is civilized. Instead Hamas will show the world the true face of Islam and why not only the West needs to fear and defend against it, but that the rest of the world needs join in on the fight for survival as well.


19 posted on 01/29/2006 7:15:35 AM PST by Chgogal (When you have the chance to climb the mountain, do so. You never know what truths you will find.)
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Does Bush Doctrine lead to Islamism?....

No.....islam is what it is. They have been doing the same thing for 1400 years...using terror and murder to spread their toxic "religion" and culture. Bush didn't have anything to do with it. The same lunatics have been in charge of islam since the beginning...it must be this way, lest islam collapse. The use of murder, terror and control are the only way that islam plods on.

Take out the imams, mullas and iayatollas.....islam will fade away like poison ivy sprayed with a weed killer.

20 posted on 01/29/2006 7:24:05 AM PST by B.O. Plenty (Islam, liberalism and abortions are terminal..)
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Hamas won a moral victory? Hey, Pat, Islamism may be on the march but it can be stopped in its tracks. Palestinian nationalism? There is none--they don't want a NATION. They want to continue killing and destroying. We'll soon see where their choices take them.


21 posted on 01/29/2006 7:27:58 AM PST by DCMB (Bless GWB and all our troops)
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The Pali's are monsters. Buchanan just sides with them because he dosen't like Jews. All this election means is that they have shown their true colors and when they attack Israel. She can justly destroy them as they so richly deserve.


22 posted on 01/29/2006 7:32:18 AM PST by CyberSpartacus
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Good 'ol 'Blame-It-On-The-Israeli's' Pat. The lyrics change but the tunes the same.
26 posted on 01/29/2006 7:38:26 AM PST by johnny7 (“Iuventus stultorum magister”)
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What the Palestinians did was to reveal who they are to the world.

Israel was the only country that already knew.

The harsh fact is that many more tens of thousands of Palestinians are about to die unless Hamas takes the path of non-violent change as promoted by India's Ghandi and America's MLKing Jr.

Are we about to see a miracle?

32 posted on 01/29/2006 7:56:49 AM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (expell the fat arrogant carcasses of Congress)
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Pat is well gone into senility. Hamas existed before Bush was still playing baseball in TX.


37 posted on 01/29/2006 8:19:11 AM PST by Paulus Invictus
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But if Israel's course seems clear -- proceed to a separation of the two peoples, wall herself in and rely on U.S. moral, military and materiel support indefinitely -- what should U.S. policy be?

Stand shoulder-to-shoulder with Israel against Islamofascist hordes....

And make it CLEAR to these lunatics bent on destroying not ONLY Israel, but rest of civilization.

38 posted on 01/29/2006 8:26:03 AM PST by F16Fighter
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As for negotiating with terrorists like Hamas, is this not just what Bush did when he agreed to lift sanctions on Khadafi, who had been behind the air massacre of Pan Am 103? In return, Bush got a commitment from Khadafi to compensate the victims' families, surrender his weapons of mass destruction and forego any right to build such weapons.

This was widely referred to, correctly, as a "surrender". Khadafi didn't want to find himself living in a spiderhole. Saddam didn't take the same opportunity he was offered, and he sits in a jail now while his sons moulder in the grave.

We have been negotiating with the Palestinians for 10 or 15 years now, and what it has gotten us is more dead Israelis. And what it has gotten us is Hamas, from a population that believes that Fatah was insufficiently dedicated to the death and destruction of Israelis. So since the Khadafi solution hasn't worked with these people, we may be looking at the Bin Ladin solution, where we chase their leaders into a cave, or maybe the Saddam solution, where we pull them out of a cave and put them on trial. Or maybe the Zawahri solution, where we splatter them into atoms.

Pat is worried about the consequences of a wall between the Israelis and the arabs; he needs to spend a moment and reflect upon a map of the middle east. If the arabs are walled off from Israel, and can no longer get at them to detonate themselves in a crowd of Israelis, what are they to do? They will be forced to a modified status-quo-ante, where Gaza looks to Egypt for its commercial connections, and the arab West Bank looks to Amman. Its that simple; its not the end of the world. Pat can relax and take a deep breath.

44 posted on 01/29/2006 9:04:22 AM PST by marron
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