German women told: we need more babies

Telegraph UK ^ | January 28, 2006 | Kate Connolly

[Gondring]

As it used to be? I'm not comfortable with the state assigning a financial amount to having or raising children. That's a slippery slope.

Heck, it's that way now in the US! Look at the Infertility Fee--where a couple who can't have children gets taxed more than the same couple with identical income who has a child.

Even many people who claim to be "conservative" have bought into the idea that it's okay to have the government penalize people with fees/higher taxes if they don't do what the government wants, by calling them "tax credits" or "deductions" if you do what Nanny says.

[sageb1]

How about my next door neighbors who are an unnecessarily dual-income family who get more tax rebates than my single-income family does? This is something my own party pushed. It keeps moms in the the workforce by rewarding them for being there.

[antiRepublicrat]

Just what Nazi "church" was an "ideal"?? The 'Church of Satan'? Typical. Another brainwashed "sociologist."

"Kinder, küche, kirche" was a German saying before the Nazis, kind of like "barefoot in the kitchen" here, like saying all women should be June Cleaver. It fit the Nazi ideal very well, so they used it in their propaganda and social engineering. Since they pushed it so hard, most people remember the Nazis for it, just like the swastika.

[TChad]

Bitte, BITTE!!!!

Don't beg.

[antiRepublicrat]

The solution - easy, treat childrearing as a profession, and have the government pay families to have children (something like US $4,000 to $5,000 per year, per kid, up to 10 kids).

They already do, it's called Kindergeld (literally, "child money"), although it isn't that much -- 154 Euros per month for the first kid and 179 Euros for each following kid, straight, non-taxable money. Plus taxes go way down with kids, and if you have enough kids you get tax breaks when buying a house, and maternity leave and medical insurance are extremely generous, etc.

All that doesn't make up for the fact that the socialist system is driving the economy down the tubes, so many don't see much of a future for any children they may have.

[John Lenin]

The answer is to glorify the homo lifestyle, raise taxes and promote no fault divorce ...

[purpleland]

"The anointed are getting their wish -the death of the West. They think that the barbarians who take power won't murder the atheists, deconstructionists and degenerates. No fictional account could be as astonishing."

Guess I will have to wait for the barbarians to do-in the "anointed" traitors.

[Nextrush]

The Nazis had a church, The Reich Church where Adolf Hitler was supposed to be worshiped as the new Jesus.

[Threepwood]

This is a much older idea than the 1930's. I've read about the 4 K's, in books from Bismark's era. The fourth K was something about bedrooms or marriage. I'll look it up. Either way, the author is pretty slow.

[Gondring]

Or those who have enough money to buy a house having to pay less than those who can't afford one or choose that renting is a better way for them to go, etc. And yes, both parties can't avoid the De Tocquevillean path of destrucution of the Republic. :-(

The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they can bribe the people with their own money. --Alexis de Tocqueville

[Nextrush]

Abortion is a major reason we need illegals in our country and the Germans need immigrants in their country to sustain the economies of both countries. Singapore realized the folly of birth control years ago and now promotes families. If President Bush wants to tackle illegal immigration, let Planned Parenthood share the blame for it. Link legalized abortion to illegal immigration and take this issue away from the libs who would use it against the president and the GOP.

[sageb1]

"The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they can bribe the people with their own money. --Alexis de Tocqueville"

Thank you for reminding me of that quote. (Not that it hasn't become obvious) Perhaps I will hit the Senate list with it. Just as a reminder, ya know? :(

[sageb1]

Just out of curiousity, does anyone know what the current global figures are for white v non-white population globally?

[cgbg]

According to every leftist everywhere the world is overpopulated and if there is one thing the world does not need it is more white people who will use more than their share of the precious resources of the Earth.

I am surprised they haven't started protesting against this lady.

[cgbg]

I see the problem as twofold--a leftist ideology against the family has influenced many women and the economic forces you cite.

The economic forces can be overcome by major increases of productivity when "working at home" becomes common-place (which I believe it will when virtual reality and paperless offices are the norm).

The ideological bias against children, imho, will be the tougher challenge to overcome.

[sageb1]

Who was the FReeper who put the list of "enemies of Islam" on his homepage (without asking permission, I will add)? Was he banned? I was thinking about him the other day when a friend told me he (my friend) was suspended for a short while because of anti-Muslim comments. I've been wondering recently how much freedom we have to speak out against Islam on FR, as various articles have been deleted before my eyes here.

[cgbg]

The "Voluntary Extinction Group" is Exhibit A of leftist hypocrisy.

That group should not exist--they all should have killed themselves long ago...:-)

[sageb1]

"I won't say but if I was Jewish I'd invest in shotguns, canned goods and concrete."

Might be a good idea if you're an American Christian as well.

[Lancer_N3502A]

Yup, they can start by putting Schroeder and his ilk in prison.