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To: AntiGuv
Well, even though I didn't make that decision based on religious reasons, it does bring up some uncomfortable things to deal with for believers. Abraham's God was the same God as Jesus' God and the Christian God so we believe. So in a roundabout way, it has become a religious issue for me.

Even though it is no longer required for religious reasons among Christians, it is the same God who ordered it.

And this is the same God who ordered that Jews not slash themselves while in mourning as the heathen did.

I don't know if it is true that sexual pleasure is reduced for the woman though. Just because people say it is doesn't make it so. That would mean for centuries Jewish and Arab women derived less pleasure from sex.

That was interesting what you posted. I had never read anything like that. Just because you say it doesn't make it true. Where did you read it? I'm suspicious of historians because they often did not agree and don't know which ones are credible.

68 posted on 01/28/2006 9:23:39 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Aliska
I don't know if it is true that sexual pleasure is reduced for the woman though. Just because people say it is doesn't make it so.

Yeah, it's hard for me to put much stock in such a "study".

Did they circumsize Joe after marriage, and ask Jane "before" and "after" questions?

Or did they ask Jane about the difference between Joe and Fred?

Either way, it hardly seems like a valid comparison.

70 posted on 01/28/2006 9:30:21 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Aliska
Just because you say it doesn't make it true. Where did you read it? I'm suspicious of historians because they often did not agree and don't know which ones are credible.

You can read about it all over the internet, but I assume you will find the Jewish Encyclopedia most credible of all:

In order to prevent the obliteration of the "seal of the covenant" on the flesh, as circumcision was henceforth called, the Rabbis, probably after the war of Bar Kokba (see Yeb. l.c.; Gen. R. xlvi.), instituted the "peri'ah" (the laying bare of the glans), without which circumcision was declared to be of no value (Shab. xxx. 6).

The "peri'ah" is the radical circumcision as we know it today, as opposed to just snipping the tip which was the custom prior to the Bar Kokhba revolt (132-135 AD).

72 posted on 01/28/2006 9:34:20 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Aliska
Abraham's God was the same God as Jesus' God and the Christian God

Not true.

125 posted on 04/08/2006 5:09:09 PM PDT by Giant Conservative
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