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Oppressive Knife Laws
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Posted on 01/28/2006 6:11:13 PM PST by Copernicus

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To: Bear_Slayer
I only know that the CCW I saw specified whether it was for a firearm or knife, I would imagine one could get one for either or both.

A gravity knife is similar to a switchblade in that the blade can be opened one-handed with no resistance, then locked into place, but is not spring loaded like a switchblade. A flip of the wrist will do it.

Thumb assists and cutouts in later blade designs have rendered the average larger folding knife similarly amenable to rapid deployment, and without the excess movement.

61 posted on 01/29/2006 9:27:50 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: bvw
I would love to be able to carry a switch blade. One-handed operation!

Any well-made modern knife with a thumb-hole or tab can be opened one-handed as quickly and easily as a switchblade

62 posted on 01/29/2006 9:28:10 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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To: ndt
"I'm actually a pretty good shot with an atlatl. Does that meet N.J.'s definition? Sure, I'll look funny with a spear strapped to my back but better safe than sorry :)"

I think you would be ok ... except that all "weapons" are pretty much prohibited subject to allowable uses.

New Jersey prohibits "slingshots" by name [no differentiation between a David versus Goliath type and a wrist rocket.]

The origins of this goofy law according to legend are a legislator's attempt to prohibit something called a "slungshot" which is something like a "blackjack" which is a padded device holding a heavy weight used to bonk someone on the head. This particular statesman misspelled "slungshot" and ever since a slingshot has been considered a threat to society that can only be possessed by criminals.

How long does it take to become a "a pretty good shot with an atlatl?" :

63 posted on 01/29/2006 10:13:47 AM PST by R W Reactionairy ("Everyone is entitled to their own opinion ... but not to their own facts" Daniel Patrick Monihan)
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To: R W Reactionairy
"How long does it take to become a "a pretty good shot with an atlatl?" :"

LOL In my case, a lot longer than I expected. You can expect to get it to go in the right general direction by the end of the day, but hitting the target is a whole different ballgame.

On your first few tries, be prepared to run because the is a very good chance it is going to go straight up.

I started playing around with it when I was 15, and I'm now 34 but it was always just something to do when I was bored, it's not like I was training for the Olympic atlatl team.
64 posted on 01/29/2006 10:28:27 AM PST by ndt
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To: R W Reactionairy
Your mention of the slungshot makes me wonder if that is what I saw in a Virginia statute on concealed weapons.

When I lived in Virginia, I asked the commonwealth's attorney for the legal definition of a concealed weapon. He mailed a copy of the statute.

I recall a slingshot being included, but now am wondering if it actually said "slungshot" since I am sure I have seen that word somewhere.

BTW, there were a lot of exceptions in the Virginia law which would have allowed a surprisingly large number of people to carry.

65 posted on 01/29/2006 10:39:24 AM PST by yarddog
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To: tpaine
I do not care to attempt to differentiate "potential bombers" from the real thing. Just catch 'em. Toss 'em in the clink. Throw away the key.

No more Brent Kimberlins. Bombers should never be pardoned. Presidents who do pardon them should be flayed, flensed and cast into the fields for the wild dogs to eat.

And that's just for starters!

66 posted on 01/29/2006 10:52:40 AM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah
Do you deny the fact that we are losing the right to carry arms without licensing laws?

Frankly, once you've missed being "bombed" you develop a clear-cut aversion to the idea that bombers should be allowed to run loose.

How do you develop a clear cut test to separate potential bombers from ordinary citizens and prevent them from "running loose"? Lord forbid that in allowing citizens to 'run loose' we encourage mad bombers to do so.

Should we conservatives institute repressive laws on concealed weapons in order to insure that mad bombers can't run loose carrying? -- [or am I making a too-casual analysis of your ideas about the situation?]

I do not care to attempt to differentiate "potential bombers" from the real thing.

Yep, - its becoming apparent that you want repressive laws to control those 'running loose'..

Just catch 'em. Toss 'em in the clink. Throw away the key.

Hey, it worked for Stalin, so why not here?

No more Brent Kimberlins. Bombers should never be pardoned. Presidents who do pardon them should be flayed, flensed and cast into the fields for the wild dogs to eat. And that's just for starters!

Ya gotta love that authoritarian socialist mindset..

67 posted on 01/29/2006 11:08:31 AM PST by tpaine
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To: robertpaulsen
In St. Louis, it's illegal to sit on the curb of any city street and drink beer from a bucket.

But what about the Declaration of Independence?

68 posted on 01/29/2006 1:48:25 PM PST by Mojave
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To: tpaine
Just stay away from the bombs and you'll be OK.

Frankly, it's pretty obvious you are trying to raise an argument where there is none, but if you want to step over the edge of the planet and start defending bombers, go right ahead. That'll put you in company with Algore and Billzo Clinton.

69 posted on 01/29/2006 5:07:51 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah
muawiyah wrote:

Frankly, it's pretty obvious you are trying to raise an argument where there is none --

At # 29 you initiated an argument about the article:

"-- doubting the "conclusions" in such pieces ~ not necessarily the "facts" or "factoids", but the secondary results of too-casual analysis of the situation.
Frankly, once you've missed being "bombed" you develop a clear-cut aversion to the idea that bombers should be allowed to run loose. --"

Now you're claiming I'm defending bombers:

"-- but if you want to step over the edge of the planet and start defending bombers, go right ahead. That'll put you in company with Algore and Billzo Clinton. --"

Get a grip. I'm arguing against oppressive laws, you're arguing for them.

70 posted on 01/29/2006 5:41:44 PM PST by tpaine
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To: 300winmag
Knife talk ping...

FrodoPlease support our Hobbit Hole Pocket knives for the troops project.
FR thread here: Help us support our troops! [Knives for Soldiers] Update: 1,000 shipped to date and counting!

71 posted on 01/29/2006 5:46:35 PM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Knife talk ping...

Yep, knife laws are stranger than gun laws, if you can believe that. There are lots more ill-defined and contradictory laws out there, because each little podunk town writes their own, to give cops more tools to hassle people. Usually the cop just takes your knife, and adds it to his collection. Actual prosecution requires them to read the statute, and try to make enough sense of it to stand up in court. That rarely happens.

Our Hobbit Hole knife count stands at 1095, which includes pocket knives, sheath knives, rescue knives, entry tools, and a couple of tomahawks. That doesn't include a few dozen "oddball" knives that I got on sale, but in numbers too small to put on the "tote board". I'm always looking out for great knives at great prices.

Those great prices are out there, at times. Sometimes just a good sale from some dealer. We also have great factory support from Gerber and Camillus.

We'll be offering a super-neat tactical switchblade (when presented with the proper paperwork) from Camillus, once it's available. I have the official pricing and photos, but I'm sworn to secrecy until it's formally announced. There are plenty of great assisted-openers out there that can do the same job for less money, and less hassle.

I've carried a pocket knife for the last 36 years (got my first one in Basic when I realized it was a vital accessory), under the theory that a knife is the one tool you cannot beg, borrow, or steal on a moment's notice. You can find a screwdriver, pliers, etc. somewhere, but if you don't have your own knife, you're SOL. So I carry my little Swiss Army knife with the 1GB USB drive, on my keyring. In my pocket is this knife, with the law-friendly 1-7/8-inch blade:


72 posted on 01/29/2006 7:40:13 PM PST by 300winmag
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To: HairOfTheDog; 300winmag
I'm guessing you guys already know about BladeForums

There's usually an active "donate to the troops" thread running over there.

73 posted on 01/30/2006 7:32:22 AM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: xsrdx

Huh - I don't know about it but winmag might!


74 posted on 01/30/2006 7:34:02 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: HairOfTheDog; 300winmag
Please support our Hobbit Hole Pocket knives for the troops project.

Thank you for your efforts in support of a noble cause.

75 posted on 01/30/2006 7:37:56 AM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: muawiyah
"No more Brent Kimberlins. Bombers should never be pardoned. Presidents who do pardon them should be flayed, flensed and cast into the fields for the wild dogs to eat."

Amen, my FRiend! Actually, if Kimberlin had been flayed, flensed and cast into the fields for the wild dogs to eat, it would have pretty effectively removed any chance of pardon, no? Still can't believe that scumbag breathes free today!
76 posted on 01/31/2006 9:13:11 AM PST by Hegemony Cricket (Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof - usually by midmorning, or so.)
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To: Hegemony Cricket

A good flensing would have been good for Brent and good for America too!


77 posted on 01/31/2006 2:33:17 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: tpaine

When it comes to bombers, an oppressive law is a good thing.


78 posted on 01/31/2006 2:34:24 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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