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To: kenavi; ARridgerunner; Arjun

"So U.S. should just cut off arms to Pakistan, as a lawless nation?"

Thats the first requirement.

"And U.S. and India confront China to do same, or risk jeopardizing their U.S. trade?"

The confront China will have to be a joint Indo-American-Japanese long term strategy. We would have to confront them economically , strategically and perhaps even militarily. I think these three countries will have to start working in that direction.

"Would Indian gov't really work so closely with U.S., you didn't answer my question about if that is so, has it been reflected in Indian support for U.S. in Iraq? Or do Indians care about aggressor nations only next door to themselves?"

You would remember that India was the first country to pledge complete and unconditional support for the US post 9/11. It was as some had called "giving US a blank check". Just that US refused to encash it thinking Pakistans alliance would be more valuable and so the US government decided to by-pass India.

India was all ready to send army to Afghanistan but the US refused Indian help at Pakistan's behest. Even then it was Indian intelligence that US had to rely on, in Afghanistan it was India backed NA that did the fighting against Taliban.

As for Iraq, asking for Indian help could never have been an option after the US refused Indian help. After all you cannot expect Indian help in Iraq while we fight it out alone in Kashmir. No political party in India would agree to that. America's best chances of getting Indian help in Iraq was when the BJP was in power, now with the present Congress government its next to impossible unless the US makes a paradigm shift in its foreign policy vis-à-vis Pakistan.


133 posted on 01/31/2006 10:33:37 PM PST by Gengis Khan
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To: Gengis Khan; Arjun
After all you cannot expect Indian help in Iraq while we fight it out alone in Kashmir.

I was referring to India publicly expressing support or at least comprehension of U.S. policy in Iraq.

Gengis and arjun, you make a persuasive case for a way in which the U.S. can cut this Gordian knot that ties us to a "failed nation state" in Pakistan.

Arjun says "Learn history." You have to appreciate that for most of its history, particularly during the Cold War, India played the "non-aligned nations" card that made it a de facto ally of the Soviet Union in that global struggle between good and evil, on the gov't level that is (quite a different story on the human level). Pakistan, on the other hand, played an irreplaceable role in the U.S.'s rapprochement with Red China, on the verge of momentous change under Chou En-lai.

You have to remember and appreciate this history because that is what we will have to overcome in order to re-orient U.S. force in southeast Asia through a triumverate of the U.S.-India-and Japan.

The Indian community in the U.S. has to step up its political activity if we are to effect this change. Groups that are pro-Israel and those who want to identify the WOT as a war against an evil Islamic culture should see it in their interests to support you, essentially conducting a pincer movement from West and East against the heart of Islamic fanaticism. I believe that India has historically had an affinity with Persian culture, and also the vestiges of your friendly relations with what used to be the Soviet Union may help to neutralize or enlist respectively those players in the struggle.

What do you think?
137 posted on 02/01/2006 7:19:37 AM PST by kenavi ("Remember, your fathers sacrificed themselves without need of a messianic complex." Ariel Sharon)
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