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Wanting Better Schools, Parents Seek Secession
The NY Slimes ^ | Published: January 28, 2006 | By RANDAL C. ARCHIBOLD

Posted on 01/28/2006 9:18:58 AM PST by JohnLongIsland

LOS ANGELES, Jan. 27 —Ladera Heights is a place that some black Angelenos aspire to and others scoff at.

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Monica Almeida/The New York Times Alisa Ivie looking at the homework of her children, Joshua, 11, and Jessica, 6, at their home in Ladera Heights, near Los Angeles. It is a choice hilltop neighborhood filled with spacious houses, well-trimmed shrubbery and city and ocean views. Home to many African-American doctors, lawyers, teachers and other professionals, the community is sometimes called "the black Beverly Hills."

But community leaders say just one thing is missing, decent public schools, and their fight to change that has unsettled many of their neighbors.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: education; localgovernment; propertytax; scools
i guess you are a racist even if you are an african-american parent wanting the best education for your children.
1 posted on 01/28/2006 9:18:59 AM PST by JohnLongIsland
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To: JohnLongIsland

This is a great sign. People are tired of sending kids to disfunctional public schools.


2 posted on 01/28/2006 9:24:41 AM PST by Ma3lst0rm (Give em all the rope they need.)
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To: JohnLongIsland

It wouldn't be so bad were it not for the fact that the government takes thousands of dollars out of my pocket every year to pay for this failed system, which is really nothing more than day care. If they did not take the money, then I could at least use it to pay a private school to educate my kids.


3 posted on 01/28/2006 9:32:10 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: JohnLongIsland
Some slaves on the democrat party plantation are getting a little too uppity. Better send in an arrogant NY Slimes hit piece to put them in their place.


4 posted on 01/28/2006 9:34:17 AM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: JohnLongIsland
...Government School/Colleges...the Last Plantation of the NEA/Liberals..."FREE THE CHIL'REN" ...BUMP
5 posted on 01/28/2006 9:36:22 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: JohnLongIsland
He speaks from the knowledge of having lived in Ladera Heights for more than 15 years, patronized Inglewood businesses and participated in that city's civic groups. But when it came time to decide on school for his children, Mr. Gilliam did not hesitate. They go to private school.

If Gilliam and other like thinking Ladera Heights parents can win the political fight, here's the proof and the model to follow:

What are secrets to success of local military school districts? (With follow-up column)

Of San Antonio's 17 school districts, three little-noticed ones consistently deliver superior results.

Schools in those districts continue to rack up national and state recognitions for excellence. And their students — who graduate and go to college at higher-than-average rates — are regularly among the city's top performers in state, federal and college entrance exams.

Should you choose to read the excerpts from Carlos Guerra's columns, it will be easy to point to just one thing, like strict discipline or involved parents, but resist the temptation.

Every element of the military school districts' model blends and combines to produce one successful result :  educating the children.

6 posted on 01/28/2006 9:44:49 AM PST by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: JohnLongIsland

And not wanting your child bullied in school... Those evil, selfish parents.


7 posted on 01/28/2006 9:48:24 AM PST by Accygirl
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To: JohnLongIsland

"The debate parallels one that confronts many middle-class parents in urban areas: whether to help lift local schools by sending their children there or whether to put their children first and send them to other schools with superior reputations."

There is no debate to be had here. The parent's responsibility is to his or her own child. They're PARENTS, they are not the head of the Board of Education.


8 posted on 01/28/2006 9:52:56 AM PST by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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To: JohnLongIsland
I'll bet the good people of Ladera Heights support the NEA and CTA, vote Democrat and support amnesty for illegals.

Bad habits die hard.

9 posted on 01/28/2006 10:02:29 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Condimaniac)
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To: Accygirl

I was bullied. Needless to say they told me (the bullies) it was so I could learn to stand up for myself. Wrecked my GPA and caused me to gain a TON of weight. One of the bullies had apparantly tried to murder her own sister. I honestly wonder why it is they allow such psychos in schools where quiet, vulnerable students just want to learn and not be harassed day in and day out.


10 posted on 01/28/2006 10:24:49 AM PST by Niuhuru
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I honestly wonder why it is they allow such psychos in schools where quiet, vulnerable students just want to learn and not be harassed day in and day out.

You are not alone in your wondering.

I would be willing to bet that most of us have been at times both the bully and the bullied.  I wonder about the why of that, too.

11 posted on 01/28/2006 10:39:56 AM PST by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: jocon307

"The debate parallels one that confronts many middle-class parents in urban areas: whether to help lift local schools by sending their children there or whether to put their children first and send them to other schools with superior reputations."

I'd be careful about buying into the superior reputation part. WE found out the hard way that private schools don't always hold up to public schools.
We home-schooled our daughter and sent our son to the best private school in the city through elementary and junior high and imagine our shock when my nephews who attend public schools since kindergarten scored much higher than my son on standardized tests. My son was ranked number one in his class and had scored the highest score out of his class. At the time we paying $9,000 a year on tuition and considering enrolling our daughter. We did some research and found out if you look at children who come from well off families or families with college educated parents public schools beat any private school in the state by a large amount.

Anyways, the point is the number one factor in your child's academic success is you the parent. Parents who care and can afford it will usually send their kids to private school which arificially raises the school's scores. People who have children doing poorly in schools really have to take responsibility and stop blaming the schools.
Overall, if academics are the only reason you're sending you kids to private school, take if form experience do some fishing around and get the real numbers and see if you can save some money yourself!


12 posted on 01/28/2006 11:20:42 AM PST by Oniolover
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To: Niuhuru
The thing that disturbed me the most about the article is that the school did nothing about the bullying incident that the mom reported. I had some friends who were brutally bullied in high school and my school did zilch about it, so I have no sympathy for schools that refuse to respond to bullying.
13 posted on 01/28/2006 3:59:59 PM PST by Accygirl
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To: Niuhuru
"I honestly wonder why it is they allow such psychos in schools where quiet, vulnerable students just want to learn and not be harassed day in and day out."

Check out books from John Taylor Gatto.

He's a former NY school teacher, one of his books (Dumbing Us Down, I think) goes into the common admin and teacher view of bullying. As I remember, it is essentially along the lines of, darn bullied kids, causing us extra work by not fitting in.

How the schools in the Western world got to this level of dysfunctionality he goes into in the Underground History of American Education. (It's a bit rambly and would be much better, I think, if it had more references.)

Book online:
http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/chapters/index.htm

A review:
http://books.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/09/06/1722203
14 posted on 01/28/2006 6:59:38 PM PST by illinoissmith
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To: Mike Darancette
You are probally right. But, I can imagine that most of the residents in Ladera Heights works and are responsible citizen. They must be, just to be able to live there. I would think that they are mostly conservatives not DemoCANTS.;-)
15 posted on 03/05/2006 11:31:32 AM PST by ethan868
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To: Mike Darancette
I'll bet the good people of Ladera Heights support the NEA and CTA, vote Democrat and support amnesty for illegals. Bad habits die hard.

You are probally right. But, I can imagine that most of the residents in Ladera Heights works and are responsible citizen. They must be, just to be able to live there. I would think that they are mostly conservatives not DemoCANTS.;-)

16 posted on 03/05/2006 11:33:57 AM PST by ethan868
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To see how your school rates, check this site out.
You'll see how poor L.A. schools rate. Mostly 0 out of 10.

I feel sorry for the residents of Ladera Heights.
http://www.greatschools.net/
17 posted on 03/05/2006 11:42:00 AM PST by ethan868
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