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Bill To Strengthen MS Seat Belt Law Going To Gov.(snip to further harass African-American drivers)
WLOX ^ | 1-27-06

Posted on 01/28/2006 6:27:57 AM PST by WKB

Carol Johns of Pascagoula says she doesn't need a state law to make her wear a seat belt. But, she acknowledges a law might have helped persuade her to buckle up years ago when she was a teenager learning to drive.

"Whether we realize it or not, young people have a lot of respect for what the law says,'' said Johns, who's 55 and says she has only been wearing a seat belt regularly for three years.

Mississippi could be on the verge of strengthening its seat belt law from a secondary offense to a primary one, meaning a law enforcement officer could pull over a vehicle simply if he thinks the driver or a front-seat passenger is not wearing a seat belt.

The Senate on Friday passed the final version of a primary-offense seat belt bill with a maximum fine of $25 per vehicle.

Under current state law, an officer can issue a ticket for failure to wear a seat belt - but the officer must have another reason, such as speeding or a missing tail light, to pull over the vehicle.

If Gov. Haley Barbour signs the bill, it would become law on May 27, the beginning of the Memorial Day weekend.

Barbour spokesman Pete Smith said "the governor generally supports the issue'' but wants to study the bill before saying whether he'll sign it.

Primary-offense seat belt bills have been proposed for years in Mississippi and have failed amid arguments about individual rights. This year, apparently, it was crunch time: Many lawmakers say they voted for the bill because Mississippi could get about $8 million in federal highway safety money if the state has a primary-offense seat belt law.

"I voted for it, but I think it's too much government,'' said Sen. Terry Brown, R-Columbus. "I hate to give up that federal highway money.''

Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith, D-Brookhaven, has voted for primary-offense bills for years.

"My husband says I don't even go to the mailbox without seat belts,'' said Hyde-Smith, a cattle farmer whose mailbox is a quarter mile from her home.

The bill passed the Senate with only four opposing votes. It cleared the House on Jan. 12, with some members arguing that a primary-offense law could be abused by law officers with a grudge.

Mississippi NAACP president Derrick Johnson said he still has those concerns.

"Our fear in making seat belts a primary offense is that it will give some bad apples an opportunity to further harass African-American drivers,'' Johnson said Friday.

U.S. Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta released a study in December showing that Mississippi in 2005 had the lowest seat belt usage rate of any state, at 60.8 percent. Hawaii had the highest rate, at 95.3 percent. The study was conducted by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

A federal law enacted last August made $498 million available to states over the next four years. To qualify for part of the money, a state has to either enact a primary-offense seat belt law or have at least an 85 percent seat belt usage rate, according to the U.S. Department of Transportation.

The bill is House Bill 409.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: jbtgonewild; papersplease; revenue; seatbelts
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To: WKB; vetvetdoug; gulfcoast6
a law enforcement officer could pull over a vehicle simply if he thinks the driver or a front-seat passenger is not wearing a seat belt.

Ah, the rub is to find a LEO that thinks.

21 posted on 01/28/2006 7:07:39 AM PST by razorback-bert
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To: Squantos; CedarDave; elkfersupper

Have you'll heard the Texas PSA that says you can now be arrested (taken to jail) if the LEO suspects DWI?


I thinks this is the message.


22 posted on 01/28/2006 7:12:50 AM PST by razorback-bert
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To: WKB
A lady named Katrina didn't help money matters any in Mississippi.

I agree, and know very well the hardships endured by MS folks - especially in Goula and Gautier. But, like I said, no one is forcing them to take the money. This is the other Golden Rule at work. Those with the gold make the rules. I also happen to think that seat belt laws are not only logical, but in check with rational and proper lawmaking.

23 posted on 01/28/2006 7:13:33 AM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: PeterPrinciple
Sure we will get taxed more on the state level but that is a little closer to me.

And this is how it should be.

24 posted on 01/28/2006 7:15:06 AM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: WKB; azhenfud

Hmmmmm, who to thank, who to thank......:)


25 posted on 01/28/2006 7:16:57 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Beagle8U
****Don't laugh. Michigan had to do away with the "Back tag" requirement for hunting because a Jewish person complained that it was like a tattoo in the concentration camps.****

In all seriousness, Jews go hunting??? I mean with all the "kosher laws" I wouldn't think there's much game a Jew could eat. Unless of course a Rabbi is standing by to do the field dressing.

To me this sounds like the typical phony baloney 'tie up the court' law suit.

26 posted on 01/28/2006 7:18:26 AM PST by Condor51 (Better to fight for something than live for nothing - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: Condor51
I'm sure that many do go hunting, I know some of my Jewish friends do, even they say it was an asinine ruling, but the guy did win the case and back-tags are no more.
27 posted on 01/28/2006 7:25:35 AM PST by Beagle8U (An "Earth First" kinda guy ( when we finish logging here, we'll start on the other planets.)
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To: sergeantdave
the car will automatically spit out a $100 speeding ticket from the ashtray.

What makes you think cars will have ashtrays much longer?

28 posted on 01/28/2006 7:35:41 AM PST by elkfersupper
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To: razorback-bert
Have you'll heard the Texas PSA that says you can now be arrested (taken to jail) if the LEO suspects DWI?

Heard it, they mean it, and it's now almost universal in all the states.

BTW, "DWI" means anything LEO wants it to be.

If you attract the attention of LEO for anything while on the road these days, be prepared for a major hassle.

29 posted on 01/28/2006 7:38:28 AM PST by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper
Just plaster the back of your pickup with NRA and 2nd Amendment stickers, It seems to put the fear of God into Barney Fife and they seldom stop you for anything.

I'm only partially joking on that!
30 posted on 01/28/2006 7:59:14 AM PST by Beagle8U (An "Earth First" kinda guy ( when we finish logging here, we'll start on the other planets.)
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To: WKB

"How in the world do they ever expect Mississippi
and America to get past the race issue with idiotic
statements like this coming from black leadership."


You are SO right.
Very well said...


31 posted on 01/28/2006 8:39:12 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: WKB

This has nothing to do with highway safety, and everything to do with sucking up more federal money.


32 posted on 01/28/2006 8:45:10 AM PST by Redbob
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To: WKB
""I voted for it, but I think it's too much government,'' said Sen. Terry Brown, R-Columbus. "I hate to give up that federal highway money.''

"I have principals, but I never let them get in the way of money-grubbing!"

33 posted on 01/28/2006 8:46:39 AM PST by Redbob
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To: Beagle8U
I'm only partially joking on that!

I know. However, have you noticed that they run in packs these days? Hardly ever just one.

Another relatively new thing that just galls me is that they position their cruisers partially out in the traffic lane on a stop.

Why is that?

34 posted on 01/28/2006 8:57:41 AM PST by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper
I don't know why they do that, I do know that they seem to leave the "good ol' boys" alone and go after easier prey.

I have been stopped once in the past 20 years, 35 in a 25, cop was real nice and just said slow down a lil.
35 posted on 01/28/2006 9:09:15 AM PST by Beagle8U (An "Earth First" kinda guy ( when we finish logging here, we'll start on the other planets.)
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To: billbears
"Hmmmmm, who to thank, who to thank......:)"

bb, I'm Giddy to Dole out an answer!

36 posted on 01/28/2006 5:30:43 PM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: WKB



The black angle went right over my head.

Watching the news tonight, I thought "right from the motor vehicle laws of CA."


37 posted on 01/29/2006 8:40:36 PM PST by onyx
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