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To: Don Joe
If there were no fusion, there would be no neutrinos at all and the sun would collapse into a white dwarf immediately.

Star do go through cycles like that - when one fuel depletes and if the star is massing enough to fuse the former waste product. The transitions, such as from fusing hydrogen to fusing helium called the helium flash, are explosive and called novae. The Sun is not sufficiently massive to fuse helium. So it will fuse hydrogen in a shell around the core which moves outward to find fresh hydrogen and grows thinner. The larger the shell, the more heat it produces, causing the sun to gradually expand into a red giant. Comes a point when the shell is so large that the pressure above it is no longer able to sustain fusion. The end of fusion is quite sudden and the infalling of the star's outer layers immediate and catastrophic. There is a huge burst of fusion that throws off 10% of the star into interstellar space. That is a nova. In a star larger than the sun, this flash ignites fusion of helium into carbon in the star's core with a shell of renewed hydrogen into helium fusion around it and the star expands even larger than before since helium fusion is much hotter. Helium fusion does not last nearly as long as hydrogen so there are successive burnouts and reignitions of carbon, oxygen and silicon fusions in shells in stars 100 times as massive as the sun producing ultimately an iron core. Iron (and larger nuclei) fusion consume rather than produce energy. So when an iron star collapses, the infalling is not stopped but accelerated by new fusion. Heavier nuclei are produced in the last fraction of a second of the collapse and then are spewed into space in a recoil known as a supernova. All elements heavier than iron are the result of supernovae which fling a substanial part of their mass into interstellar space before the remnant settles down as a neutron star or black hole.


43 posted on 01/28/2006 4:40:38 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
OK, I've presented one theory, and you've presented another, and neither of us knows which, if either, is actually the case.

The main difference, as I see it, is that one of us is convinced that he knows with absolute 100% certainty that the theory he's presented really is the case.

However, the paragraph immediately above is speculation on my part.

45 posted on 01/28/2006 5:23:48 AM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
PS: Don't feel bad. The "Global Warming" folks are every bit as certain of their theories too.

The main difference with that arena is that they are obsessed with ramming their theories down the throats of everyone they encounter. This is something I trust isn't an issue with either of the theories you or I have shared.

46 posted on 01/28/2006 5:26:17 AM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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