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To: MineralMan
You wrote: "Indeed, there's no Biblical support for the Sacrament of Confession. "

The CE article clearly and unambiguously refutes that claim. I suggest that you retract it.

Your claim regarding the SEAL of the confessional may have some merit ... but as you know the Church rejects the protestant doctrine of sola scriptura, so who cares?

84 posted on 01/27/2006 12:02:57 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

"The CE article clearly and unambiguously refutes that claim. I suggest that you retract it.

Your claim regarding the SEAL of the confessional may have some merit ... but as you know the Church rejects the protestant doctrine of sola scriptura, so who cares?"




I disagree, I'm afraid, regarding the Biblical support for the Sacrament of Confession. However, as you say, the RCC doesn't use sola scriptura as the foundation of its doctrine, so it's a moot point, as regards the RCC. Most protestant denominations have abandoned confession altogether, except for the private confession of sins in prayer. That eliminates the problem of the confessor keeping secret what is told.

I'm not denigrating the RCC's doctrine. As I said to another poster, it's an academic issue for me, anyhow. I just don't find the scriptural references used in the CE article to be particularly convincing. It's weak support for the sacrament.


86 posted on 01/27/2006 12:39:07 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: ArrogantBustard; MineralMan

Christ granted forgiveness to the thief on the cross but the thief still suffered a just death for his earthly crimes. Consider the effects on the souls of the children who have been abused who may ultimately reject Christ, blaming him for the harm done to them by such abusers. Doesn't Paul adjure all Christians to follow the laws of their kings and magistrates? What puts the priests above such laws?

A priest may hear confession of such an abuser and advise him to repentence. But could it be credibly argued that for a priest to not report such a crime is to collude with the criminal?

Still the question would be upon what questions would you draw the lines of confidentiality...a man who confesses his infidelity of marriage, should not the priest then speak with the unknowing spouse on the same principle of honesty or integrity? How about the teen that steals money from his dad's wallet?


If the Catholics claim the church can announce rules and traditions based on Christ's speaking of the "loosening or binding" power granted the church, then the Catholics had better issue a "binding" regulation command that its priests report child abusers, lest God tie a millstone around the necks of the entire Catholic apparatus and cast it into the the sea...as Christ stated should happen to those who hurt his "little ones"!


98 posted on 01/28/2006 8:48:45 AM PST by mdmathis6 (Proof against evolution:"Man is the only creature that blushes, or needs to" M.Twain)
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