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Mighty warship feels the sting (Australian jellyfish attack USS Ronald Reagan!)
news.com.au ^ | 27th January 2006 | Roberta Mancuso

Posted on 01/27/2006 12:23:44 AM PST by naturalman1975

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To: Squint
Perhaps in the old days but now it is a closed loop system. There aren't too many old style scuttlebutts left. Most are not commercial style units with water chillers built into the unit. The chill water is almost exclusively used for air conditioning. Refrigeration for food and medical supplies is, of course, done with compressed gas refrigerant systems but much of the air cooling is still done with chill water.

We had a few back up A/C systems using package units usually 5-7 tom units. FWD & AFT IC had one, Data processing, the mess decks believe it or not, and a couple of other places. VAST had it's on extra system. Photo Lab and CAL Lab had their own small systems. CAL Labs was on the 03 level outboard starboard. Photo Labs unit was on the 4th deck next to sea mart. At one time that was my GQ station. I was locked in down there because the hatch didn't have a scuttle on it :>{

When I went to AC&R we had 9 chillers 6 older 200 ton Yorks with the speed increaser or gear box between motor & compressor from the late 50's era. We had three 150 ton York Marine Packs located in 1 & 2 aux and during the 80 overhaul I watched them put in number 10 A/C below the Machine Shop. It was about a 350 ton unit and even the space had A/C :>} Our first cruise out of the yards for a two day shake down we went to GQ. I sat in the shop watching the loop temperatures and was very impressed in the difference. The temps dropped so fast I though somebody was doing Zebra on the loop and went to see. My division officer said what are you doing checking Zebra because I was running up & down the passageways LOL.

We usually ate better some of the time than most also. When we did hot gas on the reefers we'd take a cut from the coolers & freezers up to the shop. A pop corn popper served as our hot plate also. Worse part of the job though was R-11 working parties usually before a MED. Taking several dozen 200 pound barrels from the pier to the chillers was a royal pain to say the least.

Oh yea our favorite prank was about midnite to take a cup of refrigerant and pour it on somebody in their rack. Talk about confused looks LOL the stuff flashed by the time they got out of the rack & the look on their faces was priceless.

61 posted on 01/27/2006 10:00:53 AM PST by cva66snipe
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To: ArrogantBustard
Love that stuff. Some joker(s) from the NROTC unit at one of the universities I attended used to throw that stuff in the campus fountain (in front of the student union). Turned it a beautiful green colour ... quite striking when lit up at night. University admin were not amused.

We used it twice second time we told the Old Man first. We kept hoping for calls saying green water was comong out of a sink or scuttlebutt some place but it never happened. Just one of life's mysteries. A ship with nearly all visible discharges pouring green is pretty funny though.

62 posted on 01/27/2006 10:07:27 AM PST by cva66snipe
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To: Squint

Squint,
One of the F/A18 squadrons, part of the Airwing, are Marines (VMFA).


63 posted on 01/27/2006 10:12:36 AM PST by Keyga8tor
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To: magslinger
BTW, ever have any problems with a chaff fodded flight deck?

Beats me. We heard some bad goings on up there a few times with not so good outcomes. Only time I usually got up there at sea was on rare nights Flight Opps were secure. I usually went up on the bow for an hour or so. Real peacefull especially on a full moon. You almost felt thousands of miles away from the place below.

Late 70's made for some bad FD & after launch crashes though. We lost quite a few I remember that much. IIRC the A-6's had some real major issues then of going out about 2-5 miles and having catrostrophic engine failures.

64 posted on 01/27/2006 10:16:11 AM PST by cva66snipe
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To: Squint
when the nukes were taken ashore.

Happened long after Bush 41 removed tactical nukes. It was due to Slick's downsizing that MARDETs are no more.

65 posted on 01/27/2006 10:25:26 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: naturalman1975
A handful of people today protested its presence but their plans to kayak out to the "killing machine" were thwarted by tight security.

Break with the US and next Aircraft Carrier to visit will be Chinese and it won't be a 'good will' call.

66 posted on 01/27/2006 10:27:26 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: A.A. Cunningham
Happened long after Bush 41 removed tactical nukes. It was due to Slick's downsizing that MARDETs are no more.

I can think of many reasons why they still should have MARDET's in charge of security on carriers and no really good reason why they shouldn't. That one may well bite them in the sitter.

67 posted on 01/27/2006 10:33:04 AM PST by cva66snipe
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To: Keyga8tor
There are no VMFA squadrons in CVW-14 which is embarked onboard the Reagan.

Regardless, wingers aren't MARDETs. MARDETs were grunts and part of ships' company.

68 posted on 01/27/2006 10:39:51 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: naturalman1975

I recall standing a steam watch on the waist catapults on USS Ranger (CVA-61), falling asleep on watch with the charge valve slighly open, (it made a great lulling humming noise) and being suddenly awakened by the relief valve blowing off under the angle deck...honest to God, it sounded like the ship was being destroyed. Something like 500 lbs of live steam venting off through a six inch pipe, right over the side. Nothing to be done but to take the rap for that one...


69 posted on 01/27/2006 10:58:40 AM PST by Bean Counter ("Stout Hearts!")
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To: naturalman1975

It's fitting, when you think about it. Ronaldus Magnus himself was plagued by Congressional jellyfish in Washington DC.


70 posted on 01/27/2006 11:01:27 AM PST by Redcloak ("Shiny... Let's be bad guys.")
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To: A.A. Cunningham

I wasn't being critical or trying to pick nits. Most Airwings have a Marine Squadron, there is even one Airwing with a Marine CAG. I assumed there was one on Reagan. Stennis had one when I was onboard in 99-01. I also know about MARDETs, I played Rugby with the one onboard TR in 88-90.


71 posted on 01/27/2006 11:05:49 AM PST by Keyga8tor
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To: Bean Counter

Just curious what years?


72 posted on 01/27/2006 11:13:08 AM PST by cva66snipe
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To: cva66snipe

One of our pilots was over your flight deck while we were wargaming against each other when he felt the need to interfere with your radar. Not to worry, he was (nudge, nudge) chewed out.
We didn't have too much trouble with the Intruders, one caught the round down, and another had a pair of 250's hang up, until he snagged the wire. IIRC while I was on a beach detachment one also had a fodded engine, but on the deck and mostly contained by by the skin. No other aircraft damaged nor crew hurt.


73 posted on 01/27/2006 11:22:18 AM PST by magslinger (If at first you don't succeed, squeeze, squeeze again.)
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To: magslinger
One of our pilots was over your flight deck while we were wargaming against each other when he felt the need to interfere with your radar. Not to worry, he was (nudge, nudge) chewed out. We didn't have too much trouble with the Intruders, one caught the round down, and another had a pair of 250's hang up, until he snagged the wire. IIRC while I was on a beach detachment one also had a fodded engine, but on the deck and mostly contained by by the skin. No other aircraft damaged nor crew hurt.

trying to remember the A-6 issue was in the late 70's in 77 or 78 IIRC we lost quite a few before the Navy did a stand down over it. I can't remember the problems or cure.

We were one of the few snipes that went up into the nose bleed section of the ship actually in the Raydome {sp} a few times on trouble calls.

The most impressive thing I remember seeing on the flight deck was on a dependents cruise. We had an F-14 fly by at full speed {super sonic} at flight deck level. Our phone in the shop rang off the wall for a week and all the cooling coil filters had to be cleaned as a result of it. Great way to shake the dust out of the ventilation system.

74 posted on 01/27/2006 12:06:16 PM PST by cva66snipe
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To: cva66snipe

A-6 and not A-7? We had a stand down in '77 IIRC regarding the UHT's falling off. I don't remember anything about A-6'S, but that was someone else's problem. I worked on A-7's.


75 posted on 01/27/2006 12:37:21 PM PST by magslinger (If at first you don't succeed, squeeze, squeeze again.)
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To: cva66snipe

Fly by's are cool, but I think you would have been even more impressed by an F-4. An F-14 is a sports car, an F-4 is a dragster!


76 posted on 01/27/2006 12:45:59 PM PST by magslinger (If at first you don't succeed, squeeze, squeeze again.)
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To: Keyga8tor
Most Airwings have a Marine Squadron

Four out of eleven isn't most.

there is even one Airwing with a Marine CAG.

That would be Smash Yurovich who assumed command of CVW-9 on 19 January 2006. MAG-12 in Iwakuni will get a Navy Captain as CO in July.

I also know about MARDETs

Then you know that the last one was on the Enterprise in 98.

77 posted on 01/27/2006 1:01:28 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: magslinger
A-6 and not A-7? We had a stand down in '77 IIRC regarding the UHT's falling off. I don't remember anything about A-6'S, but that was someone else's problem. I worked on A-7's.

That may have been it. The planes would launch and fail withing 5 miles. Been too many years now. I have a Deck Ape Buddy I served with tonight if he remembers which one.

I think our worse crash was an S-3 that missed 1-3 wires and caught 4. Over the side she went and IIRC the crew iniated pop out before going over. 3 died from either impact into the side of the ship or water from the jettison. Most impressive crash was a Tom Cat that came in low and popped the round down. It broke the landing gear and the pilot hit hard starboard engine to ride it off before popping out safely. Onboard and up on the Bridge was CNO, Sec Navy and a few others. We were at GQ when both these crashes happened.

When ABE came back from the Gulf with no deaths I was very impressed. Bad things happen on ships in spite of all the crew can do to prevent it.

78 posted on 01/27/2006 1:21:38 PM PST by cva66snipe
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To: magslinger
Fly by's are cool, but I think you would have been even more impressed by an F-4. An F-14 is a sports car, an F-4 is a dragster!

Maybe but this one went by, turned nearly 180, and then did a very impressive climb out. All about as fast as you eyes and neck could follow.

79 posted on 01/27/2006 1:24:18 PM PST by cva66snipe
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To: cva66snipe
When ABE came back from the Gulf with no deaths I was very impressed. Bad things happen on ships in spite of all the crew can do to prevent it.

Roger that. 6 per year per carrier was the average then. We had one perfect year going. In December we had a C-2 COD crash. 3 crew, 3 passengers. No survivors.

80 posted on 01/27/2006 1:28:32 PM PST by magslinger (If at first you don't succeed, squeeze, squeeze again.)
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