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Germany 'Needs A Nuclear Arsenal Of Its Own'
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 1-27-2006 | Kate Connolly

Posted on 01/26/2006 7:10:49 PM PST by blam

Germany 'needs a nuclear arsenal of its own'

By Kate Connolly in Berlin
(Filed: 27/01/2006)

A former defence minister has provoked outrage and broken a major taboo by suggesting that Germany should have its own nuclear arsenal.

Rupert Scholz argued that Berlin needed to embrace the idea of a nuclear deterrent in the light of threats from terrorists and the Middle East.

"We need to ask ourselves how we could react in an appropriate manner to a nuclear threat from a terror state, and if needs be, even by using our own nuclear weapons," he said.

Mr Scholz, 68, who was the defence minister in Helmut Kohl's government in 1988 and 1989, said he doubted whether other nations' guarantees, made during the Cold War, to keep Germany safe in the face of a nuclear threat, could still be trusted.

"Without the appropriate guarantees of protection by our partners, the question of our own nuclear deterrent needs to be discussed openly," he said.

"I am aware that I am addressing a taboo. But in the light of the dangers that weapons of mass destruction could end up in the hands of terrorists, this is a question which deserves serious debate."

Germany agreed not to develop nuclear weapons after the Second World War in return for protection from the United States and Nato.

Mr Scholz's comments came under attack yesterday.

The security spokesman for the opposition Free Democrats, Rainer Stinner, accused him of "throwing oil on the fire" of the tension between Iran and the West.

Rainer Arnold, the defence spokesman for the Social Democrats, part of the governing coalition, said Mr Scholz's remarks would not be taken seriously.


TOPICS: Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arsenal; germannukes; germany; its; needs; nuclear; own
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1 posted on 01/26/2006 7:10:52 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Aint gonna happen Fritz


2 posted on 01/26/2006 7:12:07 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: blam

Germany already owns France ~ that's all the nukes they need anyway.


3 posted on 01/26/2006 7:12:34 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: blam

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO WAY should the Krauts be trusted with nukes. Don't the terms of their surrender prevent this?


4 posted on 01/26/2006 7:13:48 PM PST by LibertarianCandidate
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To: blam
Germany agreed not to develop nuclear weapons after the Second World War in return for protection from the United States and Nato.

Then they chose not to support us in Iraq. Now they see how unprotected they really are.

Go figure.

5 posted on 01/26/2006 7:13:55 PM PST by airborne
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To: muawiyah

We've still got our stockpile. And if Europe ever got nuked, all the French and German jokes would be gone in a second as we vaporized those responsible.


6 posted on 01/26/2006 7:13:57 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: blam

Germany does not need its own nuclear weapons as long as the US Army is based inside that territory.


7 posted on 01/26/2006 7:14:30 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: muawiyah

Germany also owns Russia. Kinda makes one wonder sometimes what that business in the early 40s was about.


8 posted on 01/26/2006 7:15:54 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: blam

> ... the idea of a nuclear deterrent in the light
> of threats from terrorists and the Middle East.

This is a satire, right?

Deterrence (e.g. MAD) only works when neither side
actually is mad.

The "threats from terrorists and the Middle East"
are being made by insane people who primarily threaten
Israel, which probably already does have nukes, and
that arsenal is not deterring Iran, nor would it deter
any thugs they'd arm.

If this loon speaks for Germany, then both sides are mad.


9 posted on 01/26/2006 7:16:52 PM PST by Boundless
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To: blam

Uh, I think we decided that would be a bad idea. And stopped you.


10 posted on 01/26/2006 7:18:12 PM PST by D.P.Roberts
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To: RightWhale

It's about time to bring the troops home.


11 posted on 01/26/2006 7:18:25 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: D.P.Roberts

Besides, you'd promptly nuke the French and then who would we have to mock?


12 posted on 01/26/2006 7:19:50 PM PST by D.P.Roberts
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To: blam

"Germany agreed not to develop nuclear weapons after the Second World War in return for protection from the United States and Nato. "

Hey Hans....it's a two-way street to get into our circle of trust. If your country would simply side with us against terror and help us fight the war, you'd be well-protected and we probably wouldn't be moving some of our bases and military resources out of your country.


13 posted on 01/26/2006 7:23:01 PM PST by goresalooza (Nurses Rock!)
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To: blam
It's fine by me. But better would be to just get off their tails and help change the regime in Iran by conventional military action.
14 posted on 01/26/2006 7:23:15 PM PST by JasonC
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I also note the credibility of a nuclear deterrent in the hands of a nation that won't get off its tail for much of anything, is not exactly high.
15 posted on 01/26/2006 7:24:25 PM PST by JasonC
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To: mylife
Aint gonna happen Fritz

Who's going to stop them?

16 posted on 01/26/2006 7:28:55 PM PST by PAR35
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To: mylife

Looks like Germany has been doing some peaking over at the next urinal given all the noise that Chirac has been making lately....


17 posted on 01/26/2006 7:31:15 PM PST by CheyennePress
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To: PAR35

The entire world with exception of NK and Iran are onboard with non proliferation of nuclear arms.

Of course that didnt stop China or India or Pakistan


18 posted on 01/26/2006 7:33:05 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: PAR35

I'd say the Russians wouldn't be too buddy-buddy with them not long after they got nukes.


19 posted on 01/26/2006 7:35:35 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: PAR35

Seems to me that the EU is seriously rattled by the Iranian nuclear threat.

The appropraite response is to allie with the world against Iran.

France has the nukes necessary to deter Iran from striking the EU


20 posted on 01/26/2006 7:36:10 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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