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To: Dajjal

There is a lot of discussion about jihad, and misconceptions it seems to me.
According to a muslim friend, there are 2 types of jihad. One is the 'big' or 'greater' jihad which is the inner struggle against evil, temptation, etc, to stay closer to God. That is the more important of the two.
The second, is the 'small' or 'lesser' jihad which is the outward or physical struggle, and can include many types of physical struggles most very benign, though it is the one people always think of when they think of jihad. This lesser jihad is not as important. It is most important to adhere to and practice the greater jihad.

What do you say, dajjal?


18 posted on 01/26/2006 7:40:47 PM PST by Brooklyn Kid (What's it to ya? ) ((....west of the Jordan, east of the Rock of Gibraltar.................))
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To: Brooklyn Kid

Your friend is repeating the words of Muslim apologists who spin Islam to create an illusion of peace. Study Islam yourself and do not do so by only going to websites sanctioned by Islamists.


20 posted on 01/26/2006 7:51:37 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Brooklyn Kid

Here is a good reference for you to check out. It is free to read online, or to download.

http://www.Answering-Islam.org/Authors/JR/Future/

Particularly apropos here is Chapter 15, section: Islam And The Goal Of World Domination

I will not violate copyright provisions, by putting an overly long post on here, when it is easily accessed.

I would recommend reading the entire book, then see if you still have the same opinions of the "inner" and "peaceful" nature of Islam.

Remember, Islam does NOT mean "peace"; it means "SUBMISSION", and demands--not asks; not offers; DEMANDS--total submission by ALL to the single way of Mohammed & Sharia.


21 posted on 01/26/2006 8:31:46 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Mad-Mo! Allah bin Satan commands ye: Bow to him 5 times/day: Head down, @ss-up, and fart at Heaven!)
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To: Brooklyn Kid
According to a muslim friend, there are 2 types of jihad. One is the 'big' or 'greater' jihad which is the inner struggle against evil, temptation, etc, to stay closer to God. That is the more important of the two.
The second, is the 'small' or 'lesser' jihad which is the outward or physical struggle, and can include many types of physical struggles most very benign, though it is the one people always think of when they think of jihad. This lesser jihad is not as important. It is most important to adhere to and practice the greater jihad.


Well, I am not an expert on the religion of Islam in general. I am an "armchair researcher" on the slice of Muslim doctrine regarding the Last Days, just from studying this topic after 9/11. But I'll answer as best I can.

By one classification of ordinary, "mainstream" Islam, there are four levels of jihad: an-nafs (against oneself) / ash-shaitan (against Satan) / al-kuffar wal-munafiqeen (against infidels and faithless Muslims) / and ahlu ath-thulm wal-bida'ah wal-munkaraat (against injustice, innovation, and public sinning). The opposition may take place within one's heart, by words, or by actions, including warfare.

For the ordinary, non-terrorist Muslim, that sort of definition is sufficient, and he lives his spiritual life according to it.

But for the terrorists and their sympathizers, they formulate rationales justifying all manner of violence against non-Muslims -- and frankly, it is not hard to find verses in the Qur'an and ahadith backing up their interpretation.

Muhammed 'Abd-al-Salam Faraj, one of the assassins of Anwar Sadat, wrote a booklet called "The Neglected Duty" which has had tremendous influence on Islamic terrorism since the early 1980s. The "neglected" duty is jihad, Faraj says: jihad is demanded by the Qur'an but most Muslims blithely go about their day going to work and raising their kids.

Faraj goes on to "explain" how jihad is not merely the inner struggle against worldly temptation, but must also be understood as the killing of infidels and moderate Muslims. Muslims who neglect this type of jihad, he says, are no better than infidels, since they allow the infidels to flourish. He justifies all sorts of actions against anybody in his way. Faraj's booklet has been published and republished again and again throughout the Muslim world.

One scholar, Johannes Jansen, published an English translation and commentary in 1986, but Macmillan stupidly has let it go out of print and remains so to this day. If your library has a copy, definitely read it. If you know anyone at Macmillan, ask them to get it in the bookstores again.

22 posted on 01/26/2006 10:04:58 PM PST by Dajjal
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