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Prepare yourself for the unthinkable: war against Iran may be a necessity
TimesOnline (UK) ^ | 1/27/2006 | Gerard Baker

Posted on 01/26/2006 2:38:37 PM PST by Dark Skies

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To: Dark Skies

"Unthinkable"..."Unimaginable" These Europeons are incapable of defending themselves, much less anything else. If it wasn't for Israel, I'd say let Teheran have the bomb. "The left says this...The right says that." What a pathetic parody of civilization Europe has become.


21 posted on 01/26/2006 2:54:30 PM PST by Faraday
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington

And, since so few people see/understand it, so is Afghanistan.


22 posted on 01/26/2006 2:55:13 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: gaijin
This sounds like a VERY tough nut to crack...

Very, very deep and spread out. But I'll bet the allied brass (U.S., U.K., IDF et al) are working overtime on it.

23 posted on 01/26/2006 2:55:20 PM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: Dark Skies

Assassination is your friend.


24 posted on 01/26/2006 2:55:47 PM PST by Taxbilly
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To: Dark Skies

Decap Iranian C&C. That's all. Just do it.


25 posted on 01/26/2006 2:56:14 PM PST by StAnDeliver
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To: Taxbilly

See, you got it down to one sentence.


26 posted on 01/26/2006 2:57:56 PM PST by StAnDeliver
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To: Dark Skies

Push has come to shove.


27 posted on 01/26/2006 2:58:28 PM PST by Supernatural (All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie! bob dylan)
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To: gaijin

It appears Iran feels they have won the coin toss
...and they have elected to receive.

28 posted on 01/26/2006 2:59:02 PM PST by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free....)
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To: Dark Skies
Not all of Iraq is uncivilized. We need a base of operations. Iraq is perfect. The majority Iraqis hold no love for Iran. This may have been Bushes plan all along. Maybe.
29 posted on 01/26/2006 2:59:36 PM PST by Dallas59 ((“You love life, while we love death"( Al-Qaeda & Democratic Party))
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To: P.O.E.

After Afghanistan, the country we had the best rationale to overthrow was Iraq. While taking care of Saddam and his Ba'athist remnants, and the Islamofascists drawn into the meat grinder, world opinion has now solidified against Iran and Syria. Looks to me like things are working very well.


30 posted on 01/26/2006 2:59:57 PM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (How long do we have to pretend that Democrats are patriots?)
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To: bill1952

True. We're well positioned to hit Iran on two fronts.


31 posted on 01/26/2006 3:01:21 PM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (How long do we have to pretend that Democrats are patriots?)
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To: Dark Skies
Military strikes, even limited, targeted and accurate ones, will have devastating consequences for the region.

I can't figure out why Europoeans don't make the obvious comparison, except European public schools may not be better than US public schools...in the lump, that is. How would the folks in England feel if Adolf Hitler had waited until his heavy water efforts had been completed, or even the Me262 before the Battle of Britain began. That battle would have been over in about 15 minutes and German would be the official language spoken in London these days.

I guess in war I'm starting to appreciate the thoughts of US Grant. You can be magnanimous in victory, but before that happens you had better win, and win so the bad guys can't look back and ask: What if? There can't be any "what ifs," or the war really isn't over.

32 posted on 01/26/2006 3:04:31 PM PST by stevem
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To: Dallas59
The majority Iraqis hold no love for Iran. This may have been Bushes plan all along.

Then why is Muqtada still breathing?

33 posted on 01/26/2006 3:04:51 PM PST by tarator
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To: Dallas59

unlikely bushgov planning in iraq including an active insurgency of native and foreign insurgents, suicide bombers, IED's, etc., at this level of activity 3 years out. This impacts the operational forces available for iran i assume.


34 posted on 01/26/2006 3:05:03 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: Dark Skies

So Condi was an "enabler" for letting the UN and Europeans take the lead in diplomacy with Iran (whom they have been busily wheeling and dealing with for the past 25 years as the US attempted to maintain unilateral sanctions.

But the same talking heads in Europe scorn George Bush as a "cowboy" for not letting the UN handle Iraq with diplomacy.

Fine. Let Britain France and Gemany declare war on Iran and ask the US to join in a coalition. Our response will not likely resemble theirs of 2003.


35 posted on 01/26/2006 3:06:22 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Dark Skies
On the left the hands are being wrung over Iraq. It is argued that the decision to invade the wrong country has made our situation intolerably worse. Iran was always the bigger threat.

This may be true in England, but I haven't heard a peep out of the Democrats to this effect. Many of them are saying that the Iraq war was the wrong war in the wrong place at the wrong time, but they sure as hell aren't saying what the right war would have been.

We have come down this road to this point because a) the Euros have turned into effete cowards, and b) the mass media and the Democrat fifth column have done everything humanly possible to undermine President Bush on the issue of war.

I don't think we took on the wrong country first. But I do think we have delayed several years too long to take on the next countries on the list: Syria and Iraq. That was self-evidently the list from the very first. And if not for the Demoncrats, we would already be much further down that list.

There's still time, but not a whole lot, especially with Israel now seemingly paralyzed.

36 posted on 01/26/2006 3:07:00 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: bill1952

It's a fake, but nice all the same.


37 posted on 01/26/2006 3:07:20 PM PST by brooklin
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To: Dark Skies

Push has come to shove.


38 posted on 01/26/2006 3:07:29 PM PST by Supernatural (All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie! bob dylan)
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To: WoofDog123

Agreed. I see lots of discussion of "invading Iran." The more immediate issue will be repelling an Iranian invasion of Iraq.


39 posted on 01/26/2006 3:08:44 PM PST by happyathome
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To: Dark Skies

Great article and very sobering.


40 posted on 01/26/2006 3:09:03 PM PST by carl in alaska (The democrats did not invent treason, but they invented the use of treason as a political strategy.)
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