Fairfax Police Say Shooting Was Accident

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/25/AR2006012502245.html ^

[riverrunner]

We have come to treat a lot of police actions like miltary actions.

Crimes as this should not be delt with my a miltary type operation.

We have miltarize are police force due to the failed so called war on drugs.

[vrwc0915]

Overwhelming force in non military application's> innocents killed,lots of lawsuits, loss of effectiveness of the police due to resentment, police state

[Gordongekko909]

What, then would be the proper way to arrest people? Make sure that cops don't outnumber suspects to make it "fair"?

[csvset]

In October 1998, a Virginia Beach Police SWAT team conducted a gambling raid on the Professional Club on South Witchduck Road. A security guard, who was watching the door to the club, was shot and killed by police.

Keeping the community safe from gamblers ! /s

[vrwc0915]

Well it always worked for me to go up to their door with another unit, ring the doorbell and ask them to identify themselves and announce that I had a warrant for their arrest for fill in the blank and explain what the process was.

[ozoneliar]

The officer should be fired right away. He is going to cost the county dearly. Can you say 'civil suit'.

[Gordongekko909]

Insufficient force -> suspect thinks he has a fighting chance -> firefight, usually with a suspect who couldn't shoot himself in the foot without emptying an entire clip -> even more innocents killed. There was a thread on FR a while ago about British cops getting killed left and right because they couldn't match the force that the people they were arresting were using.

[magslinger]

A police officer killing someone with one shot, of course it was an accident. Did the officer intentionally pull the trigger? That's a different question.

[Strategerist]

What, then would be the proper way to arrest people? Make sure that cops don't outnumber suspects to make it "fair"?

So you think ALL arrests of any kind for any crime should be done with tactical squads with drawn guns? How about traffic stops too, while you're at it?

[vrwc0915]

Are you basing your statements on experience or theory?

[Strategerist]

There was a thread on FR a while ago about British cops getting killed left and right because they couldn't match the force that the people they were arresting were using.

If you read the article you see this was an undercover sting operation where a cop had a long-term betting relationship with the guy was killed, and presumably knew who he was.

The guy shot was a lone optometrist with no criminal record. What do you think the firefight odds were there?

[Gordongekko909]

Part theory, part what I've been told by police officers and military personnel. Zero percent experience.

[Dead Corpse]

Because gamblers are known to be a viscious lot that'll kill you as soon as look at you...

It could be that they are all Ninja's as well and this justfies blowing them away if they fart in your general direction.

[WoofDog123]

actually for a victimless non-violent crime like this, you just go to his office and arrest him. Armed takedown for gambling? I guess next we will see armed takedowns of grannies for bingo.

I know there are those who never saw a police murder that wasn't justified, but the entire arrest tactic is completely out of proportion to the underlying crime.

[Mogengator]

What the bleep kind of Keystone Kops are these?

They use the tac squad to serve a search warrant in a vice investigation?

Maybe they should have just nuked his house.

[CharlesWayneCT]

From The Article:

Police departments generally do not accept responsibility for an officer-involved shooting before an investigation is completed.

But of course, they don't usually have their guns go off for no reason while holding custody of an unarmed suspect.

[hillary's_fat_a**]

The officer should be fired. What a disgrace.

The officer should be shot ... an eye for an eye ...

[Frank_2001]

Of course..obviously we are dealiing here with one desperate hombre who will do anything to avoid capture. Besides the cops lost $5000.00, so now it's personal/extreme sarcasm off
Hopefully, by the time this is over, "Fairfax" will be known as "Culosi", owned and operated by the Culosis!

[vrwc0915]

They were just pissed that he came outside so they couldn't do this:

Then:

resulting in this:

[Deguello]

"they should have called out the army."

They should send the Tactical Unit to Sierra Blanca, Texas.