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To: longshadow; Right Wing Professor
A quick spot of googling revealed no primary source for the information in this article. I'm not too interested in "science by opinion poll" but the claimed results astound me. Particularly the claimed age bias. Religious belief is almost non-existent amongst young Brits whereas those over 55 are much more likely to be Christian (still not very likely any more though).

Maybe if someone gets the primary information rather than a spun piece of hearsay there might be something worth discussing.

Speaking anecdotally, I've found it rare to come across anyone who doubts evolution in the UK. And most UK citizens won't even have heard of the words "intelligent design" in this context; except for the better informed who read broadsheet news articles about the US controversy.

19 posted on 01/26/2006 10:42:53 AM PST by Thatcherite (More abrasive blackguard than SeaLion or ModernMan)
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To: Thatcherite
A quick spot of googling revealed no primary source for the information in this article.

I suspect the results of the poll are swayed by self-selection bias, as the article says the 2000 respondents were people who responded to a program that was about the "Evo vs whatever" argument.

It would be like polling the audience of a TV program that spoke approvingly about homosexuality on what their views on homosexuality were. It is a non-random sample, which is predisposed to a particular view on the topic, and as such means absolutely nothing about the views of the population as a whole.

22 posted on 01/26/2006 10:49:26 AM PST by longshadow (FReeper #405, entering his ninth year of ignoring nitwits, nutcases, and recycled newbies)
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To: Thatcherite
A quick spot of googling revealed no primary source for the information in this article. I'm not too interested in "science by opinion poll" but the claimed results astound me.

Sometimes, it takes time to get through all the google results and a simple google quick spot won't work unless you take the time to check things out.
Here is another source :

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4648598.stm

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More than half the British population does not accept the theory of evolution, according to a survey.
Furthermore, more than 40% of those questioned believe that creationism or intelligent design should be taught in school science lessons.

The survey was conducted by Ipsos MORI for the BBC's Horizon series.

Its latest programme, A War on Science, looks into the attempt to introduce intelligent design into science classes in the US.

Over 2000 participants took part in the survey, and were asked what best described their view of the origin and development of life:

22% chose creationism
17% opted for intelligent design
48% selected evolution theory
and the rest did not know.


Intelligent design is the concept that certain features of living things are so complex that their existence is better explained by an "intelligent process" than natural selection.

Education questioned


Andrew Cohen, editor of Horizon, commented: "I think that this poll represents our first introduction to the British public's views on this issue.

"Most people would have expected the public to go for evolution theory, but it seems there are lots of people who appear to believe in an alternative theory for life's origins."

When given a choice of three theories, people were asked which ones they would like to see taught in science lessons in British schools:

44% said creationism should be included
41% intelligent design
69% wanted evolution as part of the science curriculum.

Participants over 55 were less likely to choose evolution over other groups.

"This really says something about the role of science education in this country and begs us to question how we are teaching evolutionary theory," Andrew Cohen added.

The findings prompted surprise from the scientific community. Lord Martin Rees, President of the Royal Society, said: "It is surprising that many should still be sceptical of Darwinian evolution. Darwin proposed his theory nearly 150 years ago, and it is now supported by an immense weight of evidence.

"We are, however, fortunate compared to the US in that no major segment of UK religious or cultural life opposes the inclusion of evolution in the school science curriculum."

In the US, a recent high profile court case ruled that the intelligent design movement is motivated by a desire to introduce God into the classroom after parents in Pennsylvania took a school board to court over its demand that biology classes should not teach evolution as fact.
33 posted on 01/26/2006 12:22:43 PM PST by SirLinksalot
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To: Thatcherite

More info from the original BBC stories:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/horizon/war.shtml

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4648598.stm


39 posted on 01/27/2006 10:13:36 AM PST by Canard
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