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To: Luis Gonzalez
The Church took the same position on the question of whether the Earth was flat or not, and whether it revolved around the Sun or the Sun around the Earth.

Eventually, technology caught up with the question, and the Church was forced to admit that it was wrong.

The unchanging Bible has never had these two issues wrong, unless you want to claim a scientist who says the sun rose this morning believes the sun revolves around the earth.

Isa 40:22 [It is] he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof [are] as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

Don't tell me you think it is saying the earth is a pancake. How do we get billions of light years between galaxies in a no time? We have a Creator that stretches it across the universe like a painter puts paint on a canvas.

106 posted on 01/26/2006 9:22:32 AM PST by bondserv (God governs our universe and has seen fit to offer us a pardon. †)
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To: bondserv

A circle is not a sphere, and what you now argue was "interpreted" at the time (by the Church) not to mean a sphere.

Now, in light of the unavoidable truth that the Earth is round, and a sphere, that it rotates around the Sun, and that religion was absolutely wrong on the subject, religion wants to excuse its earlier missinterpretation of Scripture by pointing to information they ignored in their previous stance.

When evolution is proven beyond question, then religion will stand on the notion of dual Creation (Genesis I and Genesis II as accounts of two separate Creations) in order to save face.


109 posted on 01/26/2006 9:32:14 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: bondserv
Isa 40:22 [It is] he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof [are] as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

Don't tell me you think it is saying the earth is a pancake.

Why not? A squat cylinder is more consistent with the text than the actual shape of the earth is. A squat cylinder has two surface planes which are circles. An irregular oblate spheroid (the shape of the earth) has no such surfaces.

(FWIW, are you aware that the "†" character in your tagline is not a cross, but a dagger.)

112 posted on 01/26/2006 9:36:17 AM PST by WildHorseCrash
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