[Dead Dog]

Soooo, to be "science" it must adhere to a materialistic world view. That is what I find amusing. The motive of the proponent of a theory has nothing to do with the validity of the theory.

I've seen one freeper call another freeper "American Taliban" for questioning the orthodoxy of evolution. I think that about sums up this debate...with bitter irony.

Personally, I believe in evolution as a biological process, and I believe Darwin changed the world..for the better. And he did so by challanging orthodoxy. ID may be valid, it may be crap, it probably is somewhere in between. But it does do one thing, It highlights the pure fact that Marxist Materialism has become the assumption that frames all debate. Darwin would probably not have been impressed.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"Soooo, to be "science" it must adhere to a materialistic world view."

You believe that science should involve itself with mysticism?

"It highlights the pure fact that Marxist Materialism has become the assumption that frames all debate."

Marx has absolutely nothing to do with this.

Science concerns itself with materialism, and religion with spiritualism.

The evolution debate belongs in the science community, and that's where it is.