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City Demands Warrant in FBI Investigation
The Newton Tab ^ | January 25, 2006 | Dan Atkinson

Posted on 01/25/2006 12:08:57 PM PST by Jim Noble

Law enforcement and Newton Free Library officials were embroiled in a tense standoff for nearly 10 hours last week when the city refused to let police and the FBI examine library computers without a warrant.

Police rushed to the main library last Wednesday after it was determined that a terrorist threat to Brandeis University had been sent from a computer at the library.

But requests to examine any of its computers were rebuffed by library Director Kathy Glick-Weil and Mayor David Cohen on the grounds that they did not have a warrant.

While one law enforcement official said he was "totally disgusted" with the city’s attempt to hold up a time-sensitive investigation of potential terrorist threat, Cohen is defending the library’s actions, calling it one of Newton’s "finest hours."

"We showed you can enforce the law ... without jeopardizing the privacy of innocent citizens," Cohen said.

Brandeis received the alleged e-mail threat at about 11 a.m. on Jan. 18, according to Waltham Lt. Brian Navin. While police reportedly didn’t find anything threatening after evacuating 12 buildings at Brandeis and a nearby elementary school, by about 2 p.m., the e-mail was traced to a computer at the Newton Free Library on Homer Street.

Newton Police, followed shortly by FBI and State Police officers, rushed to the library to lock the building down, Glick-Weil said.

"There was a lot of excitement going on," she said.

Police traced the origin of the e-mail to one of the 21 computers in the second-floor lab, Glick-Weil said. She agreed to have her information technology worker examine the computers, but said the FBI requested for information about the computers without a warrant, even though they were familiar with library privacy laws.

"You’ll have to ask them why they did that," she said.

An FBI spokesman, as well as Lt. Bruce Apotheker of the Newton Police, both said their offices would not comment on the investigation.

Cohen was asked by FBI officials to turn over information on all the computers, but said he could not without a warrant. It took U.S. attorneys several hours to finally get a warrant, Glick-Weil said, and they took the computer from the library at about 11:30 that night, after the library had closed.

But a law enforcement official who was close to the investigation but said he was not authorized to speak on the record, described the incident in an e-mail as a "nightmare."

He said Glick-Weil was told "we were dealing with a potential terrorism plot" but became "close to uncontrollable, saying that we had no right to be there."

Nancy Murray, director of education for the Boston branch of the American Civil Liberties Union, said she was surprised the FBI asked for information without a warrant.

"They couldn’t possibly expect to get [the computer] without a warrant," she said. "Good for the library for knowing more about warrants than the police."

"The law requires us to protect the privacy of library users," Glick-Weil said.

Glick-Weil said there was a "little bit of tension" during the investigation, but overall thought it went smoothly.

"I found the process encouraging," she said. "If law enforcement thinks it has probable cause, it can get a warrant in a timely fashion."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: barkingmoonbats; fbi; surveillance; terrorism; wheresthelink
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If the terrorist incident was real, you can bet the Newton city officials would blame Bush for not preventing it. Their conduct was disgraceful.
1 posted on 01/25/2006 12:08:59 PM PST by Jim Noble
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What expectation of privacy does anyone have on a PUBLIC ACCESS library computer? Someone should have been arrested at that library.


2 posted on 01/25/2006 12:10:49 PM PST by JLS
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To: JLS

None, of course.


3 posted on 01/25/2006 12:11:58 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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So three hours after the threat was made they managed to trace the e-mail path.

And they still expect the perpetrator to be sitting there?

4 posted on 01/25/2006 12:12:40 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Jim Noble

What happened to the 72 hours after the search?


5 posted on 01/25/2006 12:15:22 PM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: Jim Noble

This is the same place where parents, other members of the public and the media were excluded from a gay-indoctrination session targeting their kids in the high school.


6 posted on 01/25/2006 12:16:08 PM PST by jjmcgo
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To: Jim Noble

It all goes back to the NSA 'domestic wiretapping' story. They wanted to stand up to the facist imperial stormtroopers and uphold vital civil liberties, even if someone gets killed in a terrorist attack. Liberals disgust me.


7 posted on 01/25/2006 12:16:23 PM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: Jim Noble

Liberals think terrorists are some kind of petty criminals, not irregular combat troops of a hostile foreign power.


8 posted on 01/25/2006 12:17:30 PM PST by jonascord ("As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly!")
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I really hate to say this, but I think they were absolutely correct in demanding the warrant.


9 posted on 01/25/2006 12:18:38 PM PST by Agent Smith (Fallujah delenda est. (I wish))
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To: jonascord

Well, there goes their Federal grants!!!


10 posted on 01/25/2006 12:20:31 PM PST by Concho
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To: Agent Smith

How would you feel if the threat turned deadly and hundreds of Brandeis University students were MURDERED?

What if information obtained in those ten hours would have prevented the senseless killing of innocent Americans?

The terrorists need no warrant. At the very least, the 72-hour rule should apply.


11 posted on 01/25/2006 12:23:33 PM PST by Paul_N_Lakeside
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To: Agent Smith

Was Mayor Cohen an Agent Provocotuer?


12 posted on 01/25/2006 12:24:29 PM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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I really hate to say this, but I think they were absolutely correct in demanding the warrant.

Either it was a lawful search or it wasn't. If it was an illegal search then the library was absolutley right for demanding a warrant.

13 posted on 01/25/2006 12:24:32 PM PST by ozoneliar ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)
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I totally agree with you. What some people here fail to realise is that once 'the authorities' start demending, and receiving, info without a warrant it will never stop.

Kudos to the library for following the law.

14 posted on 01/25/2006 12:25:54 PM PST by CrawDaddyCA (There is no such thing as a fair fight. Thou shall win at all costs!!)
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We have to go back to the word "reasonable". They should get a warrant if time allows but most jurisdictions allow for reasonable searches and seizures without a warrant if time is of essence but all officers involved must sign an affidavits assuring the court that time was of essence and then the judge will rule on "reasonable".
15 posted on 01/25/2006 12:26:21 PM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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Had there been a loss of life, the Mayor and the library official could have taken solace in knowing they were right, DEAD RIGHT. Of course they would have been alive to tell everyone how they stood up for everyones right to privacy. Complete Idiots!!!
16 posted on 01/25/2006 12:28:41 PM PST by jazusamo (A Progressive is only a Socialist in a transparent disguise.)
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I really hate to say this, but I think they were absolutely correct in demanding the warrant.

Agreed. The police had already determined that there was no public danger ("While police reportedly didn’t find anything threatening after evacuating 12 buildings at Brandeis and a nearby elementary school..."). There was no reason to not get a warrant first.

17 posted on 01/25/2006 12:29:36 PM PST by Grut
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To: Jim Noble

I don't find their conduct disgraceful. I see no reason the government cannot get a warrant if it wants to search. It is made very clear in the fourth Amendment. This Amendment, like all of the others, is able to be modified by a new Amendment. If you wish the government to be able to conduct warrantless searches, pass another Amendment.


18 posted on 01/25/2006 12:31:52 PM PST by mysterio
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To: Agent Smith

I agree completely. They had 2 hrs to get a warrant as they were tracing the e-mail address. Most the time they are rubber stamped anyhow.


20 posted on 01/25/2006 12:34:23 PM PST by beltfed308 (Cloth or link. Happiness is a perfect trunnion.)
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