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To: Alouette
Israel needs to work with Europe and figure out what they are going to do. Iran is the problem of those within missile range.

The US is not the savior of either Israel or Europe. I think getting Russia and China on board - as well as Turkey and Saudi Arabia is the wisest course. Then there will truly be "international agreement" about what to do.

63 posted on 01/25/2006 5:17:00 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong
I think getting Russia and China on board - as well as Turkey and Saudi Arabia is the wisest course. Then there will truly be "international agreement" about what to do.

But why would Europe, Russia or China care? Even more so, why should Turkey or Saudi Arabia go against a fellow muslim country to side with Israel?

I know the Europeans are within missile range, but the people of Europe have shown over and over that they do not want a fight and believe that appeasement is always the best course of action. From what I can tell, Europe believes Israel is the problem, not the muslim states.

There is no way that Europe would go to war (or even silently support one) and shut off their oil supply. If anything, the Europeans would see this situation as a way of crippling the US by having our oil supply cut off.

The Russians aren't as cowardly or naive as the rest of the Europeans, but they are very much self serving. A lot of the problems we have in the middle east now are due to the cold war meddling and propping up of governments by the US and Soviets. Regardless, the Russians have nothing to fear from Iran in the short term, so they can just sit back and let Isreal and the US do all the heavy lifting and take all the risks while they condemn us at every chance. Of course, Putin would assure Bush in private that he is for us.

The Chinese don't care either. The only possible thing that could trouble them would be if the US market collapses due to an oil embargo.

Realistically, we are stuck. The American people just won't support another war unless we are attacked. I know that sucks, but it is the political reality. The only hope is that the Israelies find a way (with our secret help) to deal with this situation.

67 posted on 01/25/2006 6:07:14 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: Sunsong
"Israel needs to work with Europe and figure out what they are going to do. Iran is the problem of those within missile range."

How about iran sitting in cuba with suitcase nukes? Suitcase nukes alone, make this everyones problem.

"The US is not the savior of either Israel or Europe. I think getting Russia and China on board - as well as Turkey and Saudi Arabia is the wisest course. Then there will truly be "international agreement" about what to do."

The last "international agreement" they came up with gave us the 'oil for food' scam, and 12 years of ignoring terrorist acts across the globe. We can't wait 12 years for old europe to get motivated enough to do something. Iran are the financiers of alot of our troubles at this time, too. Jamming radio freq. from the comfort of cuba, paying suicide bombers, sending arms and men against our soldiers in iraq---all acts of war. Wake up.

79 posted on 01/27/2006 10:08:29 AM PST by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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