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To: Jeff Head

are compatible with all the touchy feely nonsense you seem to embrace

I don't embrace touchy feely nonsense. I just don't think sexual orientation has a bearing on job performance. Let me reiterate, that I think homosexuality is wrong. But so is fornication. Anyone ever been kicked out of the military for having sex outside of marriage? Why do men get so angry about this subject? You sound a little angry. Its just my opinion and my opinion has no weight with military brass.


38 posted on 01/25/2006 5:54:07 AM PST by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Conservative!)
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To: brwnsuga
Look! I am a woman, part of an active duty family, and I feel just like the men on this thread. Everything about us affects our whole life and job performance. Wrong breeds wrong.
47 posted on 01/25/2006 6:02:47 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: brwnsuga

The people fornicating are not those you have to depend on for life or death within your platoon or company. Of course it is wrong. The issue here is group moral and your ability to fight and not have your mind clouded with emotion and sexual passion towards another in your own company. Never has been good...never will.


50 posted on 01/25/2006 6:03:12 AM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: brwnsuga
Anyone ever been kicked out of the military for having sex outside of marriage?

Yes. It happens all the time. The military isn't WalMart. They have their own laws and rules. I was reprimanded for holding hands with my wife in public once. I was also counselled for helping her carry groceries home when we didn't have a car because I was carrying her umbrella and it wasn't black.

The military discourages any intimate public display (kissing, holding hands, etc.) even if you are doing it with your own spouse.

I've known of dozens of cases where careers ruined for having "inappropriate" relations. (i.e., sleeping with someone who is not your spouse).

51 posted on 01/25/2006 6:03:26 AM PST by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: brwnsuga
BTW, I am not angry, just pasisonate on the issue because people's lives depend on the correct handling (which we have had in this country up until 1994) of these types of issues.

If soldiers lives depend on it, then our national security depends on it by extension and our ability to remain free. That is why I am so passionate about it.

52 posted on 01/25/2006 6:04:45 AM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: brwnsuga
Anyone ever been kicked out of the military for having sex outside of marriage?

Yes, for heaven's sake, it's against the rules.

Don't you remember that female pilot who was thrown out back in the 90s because of her affair with another (married) soldier? The press just ate up the spin that she was discharged "just because she fell in love". Sickening. Yes, I really want a ditz who can't control herself or her inferiors to be an officer.

There was a GENERAL that was discharged recently for an extramarital affair.

The only double standard is the one the gays are hoping to achieve.

58 posted on 01/25/2006 6:07:44 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: brwnsuga

There was the first woman bomber pilot who was kicked out for having and adulterous affair.

She was treated the same as any other bomber pilot by being kicked out.

The military is not a university or a corporation. They are paid to go places and blow things up and when needed kill people. They are to be a disciplined and efficient command machine which follows orders.

Homosexuals are self indulgent fetishists who fail to fit within that structure of the US military.


126 posted on 01/25/2006 9:14:13 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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