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To: rzeznikj at stout

Wow. You are amazing.

Take some responsibility for your comments. You insult me by clear implication that I didn't even know what elementary school kids know ("Since this is a concept that is, amazingly enough, still taught in elementary-school classes", as you said). Then you say that you didn't insult me or start this? I've seen some hard cases before but you take the cake. My response was merely a play on what you had previously said, but of course I didn't whine about being insulted, either.

"I'm also being a nice guy by letting you off the hook for that ad hominem."

Don't be such a drama queen with the professional victimhood stance. You aren't letting me off the hook for anything since you started it. But you can call the Waaaaaambulance if you feel the need.

I'm really wondering if you are just messing with me, surely no one would actually choose to act like you are acting. So now that you've had your fun we can call it a day.


138 posted on 01/27/2006 8:53:21 AM PST by webstersII
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To: webstersII
I'm at a loss for words at your post. But, I'll try (again) to address it.

I've seen some bizarre posts, but this one has to be the weirdest one I've seen yet. Never have I talked or posted to an individual who, when confronted when they're wrong, or when their idea doesn't hold, resort to personal mudslinging.

I deal with Liberals every single day for hours upon hours--in my job and as a full-time college student.

You're a conservative, and I know you, of all posters here, are better than this.

I've been taking responsibility for my commments, and might I note that there's been consistency and civility in what I've been saying all along? And that other posters and other threads in the past have brought up essentially what I've said? Absolutely.

Now I'll grant you I'm not always clear about what I say--sometimes, my posts are indeed the raw ideas in my head. If you needed clarification, I would have been happy to break it down or explain things further. All you had to do was ask.

Next, I can and do get ticked off (and rightly so) when people accuse me of being an incompetent Liberal or attack me when they have no grounds to do so--it's one of my biggest pet peeves. You do not know me other than what I've posted on this thread, thus it's very unfair to make rash judgments about me--the posting equivalent of a low-blow punch.

I don't insult unless I'm provoked, and even then I hesitate to do so, and especially if I can't do it in a diplomatic manner.

I did not insult you in any way, if what I said offends you, then I'm really sorry, but with all due respect, that is purely beyond my control.

I don't deny you have the right to disagree. And I think I've made that point abundantly clear. And if you were solely criticizing my ideas, instead of personal cheap shots, I wouldn't have had a problem with it. It's when you subtly hinted at my intelligence (or lack thereof) in your second reply--that's when it crossed the line and became unacceptable, and continues with you labeling me a Liberal and a drama queen. This has to stop right now.

Nay, I think constructive critiquing of other posters' ideas is a good thing, as it makes all of our ideas and arguments stronger. I would have welcomed your critiques if you had kept it civil, focused, and had paid close attention to what I was saying.

But when you, or anyone else for that matter, attack me as a person, that crosses the line.

Also, I don't whine about being insulted--I've been insulted by other people each day for the last sixteen or seventeen years. It's grown to be a fact of life as far as I'm concerned, and I've learned to deal with it accordingly.

If you attack my ideas, I don't care--as I've said, that's good. But I draw the line when the abuse gets personal and resorts to name-calling--and I'm quite sure I'm not the only one here who holds this policy.

As a little reminder, if you read the bottom of every posting screen, it will say no personal attacks. And this is what your last post was--entirely a personal attack. It is here that I'm going to ask you to cease and desist until you can offer criticism to my ideas and not me as a poster.

If not, then all I can say is: can we at least agree to disagree?

Thank You.

139 posted on 01/27/2006 12:39:25 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (This is a darkroom. Keep the door closed or you'll let all the dark out...)
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