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Bank Offers American Dream To Illegal Immigrants
Yahoo News ^ | 1/24/2006 | 10News

Posted on 01/24/2006 8:11:11 AM PST by Jhohanna

It's the American dream -- buying a home for your family. And now you don't have to be in the country legally to own one.

Wells Fargo is first major California lender to offer home loans to illegal immigrants, 10News reported.

"We're not required to ask the immigration status of any of our customers. That is the responsibility of the federal government," Wells Fargo bank representative Jerry Ruiz said.

The program is called "Celebrate Home" and Wells Fargo says it complies with all federal regulations, 10News reported.

Applicants do need a tax identification number issued by the Internal Revenue Service for people who do not have Social Security numbers.

Ruiz said the program is targeted to Wells Fargo customers who have been an account holder for at least six months and who can show proof of residency for two years in the United States -- along with proof that they have filed and reported income taxes using an individual taxpayer identification number.

There are an estimated 10 to 12 million illegal workers in the United States.

Critics say even though the program is legal, it sends the wrong message.

"Any time you have a bank institution lending money to help people buy homes when they're not even allowed to be in the country, it is something that runs contrary to the law. It aids and abets people who are breaking the law," said Ira Melman of the Federation of Immigration Reform.

A bill is being introduced in Congress that would make it illegal to issue loans to illegal immigrants, according to 10News.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; ca; housing; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; mortage
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To: clawrence3
Of course, I am not saying that illegal aliens are U.S. CITIZENS under the 14th Amendment - their children "born in the United States" are however - and please note that "equal protection / depriving of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law" applies to all PERSONS, legal citizens or not. Do you have a question for me somewhere in all of that?

Gee, you are REALLY making an effort to misunderstand the words.

The Children of those here Illegally are STILL not US Citizens, as their parents were NOT under "U.S. Jurisdiction". Allow me to simplify.

An Illegal Mexican Infiltrator to the US cannot travel to say, Germany, and then go to the US Embassy for aid/protection. They are NOT US Citizens, and would be referred to the Mexican Embassy!

That is the crux. American LAWS apply to ILLEGAL INFILTRATORS, but they are NOT US CITIZENS, hence they are not under "U.S. Jurisdiction"! An illegal arrested appeals to the Mexican Consulate!

It is a DELIBERATE misinterperetation of the 14th Ammendment that has allowed this sham to continue, with a wink and a nod from the Ruling Eeee-lites who LOVE "Cheap Lettuce" and Global Hegemony!

You can spin and scam all you want. The profits from an illegal venture are ILLEGAL...hence we can and SHOULD confiscate any and all property/cash/investments from Illegals here in the US.

Want precedent? Go drive in Texas or Florida with $25,000 in cash on you. The Policia pull you over, and CONFISCATE your dinero! Even if you rightfully earned that money!

Then spend the next 6 month to a year fighting to get all your property back!

Or have a mansion that you bought with drug money. When the FBI/BATF/DEA raid your house, they take EVERYTHING and claim it all as the illegal profits from an illegal venture.

So if an Illegal has a job here illegally, then any and all income/property/gains from that job should also be considered Illegal gains!

101 posted on 01/24/2006 11:34:20 AM PST by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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To: Jhohanna; B4Ranch
Any home loan guaranteed by the FDIC requires a valid Social Security number or tax identification number issued by the Internal Revenue Service for people who do not have Social Security numbers, as well as proof of residency for two years in the United States, including filed and reported income taxes using said individual taxpayer identification number - to my knowledge, Wells Fargo is following every federal guideline - even if you can identify some crime they are committing, they are still innocent until proven guilty.
102 posted on 01/24/2006 11:34:59 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: eleni121

Now, THAT's a valid reason for a boycott ; )


103 posted on 01/24/2006 11:35:58 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: EternalVigilance

I am "gloating" about accepted American history behind the 14th Amendment?!


104 posted on 01/24/2006 11:36:57 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3

Give it two months - it *WILL* be illegal. See thomas.gov for recently introduced legislation that WILL DENY BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP.


105 posted on 01/24/2006 11:37:37 AM PST by Jhohanna (Born Free)
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To: Jhohanna

A sad note on this is that the probability of one of these illegals getting tossed out of the country is so low the bank doesn't have much to lose.


106 posted on 01/24/2006 11:38:32 AM PST by drlevy88
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To: clawrence3

Hey, they are pandering to the homosexuals too... so maybe they are just Diverse. Well, they can kiss my good diverse dollars - to the tune of six figures a year - GOOD BYE! And the way they are fighting for my business, it's been a pleasure telling them exactly WHY they don't get my money.


107 posted on 01/24/2006 11:39:01 AM PST by Jhohanna (Born Free)
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To: clawrence3

I don't really need to respond to you anymore - people far more knowledgeable than me are busy kicking your ass on this thread - and making you look like a complete fool in the process. Thanks for showing your true colors.


108 posted on 01/24/2006 11:39:01 AM PST by steel_resolve
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To: hsmomx3

Probably a muuch better rate than you or I could get and don't be surprised to learn that the closing costs are being paid under some other program that was designed to "keep the construction of new homes strong."


109 posted on 01/24/2006 11:40:20 AM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: Itzlzha

There are "Policia" in Texas and Florida confiscating legal money?! I'm not following that one - as for "The Children of those here Illegally are STILL not US Citizens, as their parents were NOT under "U.S. Jurisdiction", as long as you understand the federal government (including the U.S. Supreme Court) disagree with you, that's about all I can do.


110 posted on 01/24/2006 11:41:22 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: Jhohanna

Just as long as you realize anything short of a Constitutional Amendment ratified by 3/4ths of the States will be challenged as un-Constitutional.


111 posted on 01/24/2006 11:42:43 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: Jhohanna

"Criminal" would be closer to the truth.


112 posted on 01/24/2006 11:42:51 AM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: drlevy88

Again - see "economic decision" above. We don't force banks to verify all their other customers are not breaking other laws, right?


113 posted on 01/24/2006 11:43:35 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3

Money is the root of all [kinds of] evil.


114 posted on 01/24/2006 11:44:43 AM PST by drlevy88
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To: steel_resolve

O.K. then - have a nice day - thanks for impugning my mother.


115 posted on 01/24/2006 11:44:45 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3
What about your mother?

My mother was born here, and her mother, and her mother's mother, and alllllll the way back to the Revolution. Thank you very much. My great great great grandfather fired the first shots at the Mexicans, drawing blood in 1831 in the Texas Revolution. I think I've got some ground to stand on. Oh, and my great great uncle - fired the shots that killed Lincoln. Sorry, my history goes back generations, and I'll fight to my OWN death to preserve this great nation my ancestors fought and died for.

And it was because of acts like this that it all got started. You watch... it is just beginning. If you can't name what process your mother became a legal immigrant after 20 years, when it only takes 7 to get a green card, something ain't right. You were fibbed to. Believe me... my friend's wife is *married* to him, and still can't get a green card after 5 years. Not my problem. But the kids... the kids are his. :P
116 posted on 01/24/2006 11:45:35 AM PST by Jhohanna (Born Free)
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To: drlevy88

Agreed - unfortunately, Wells Fargo is not capable of going to heaven or hell, so we have laws on the books to hold corporations accountable - can you identify any such law Wells Fargo is violating?


117 posted on 01/24/2006 11:46:58 AM PST by clawrence3
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To: B4Ranch

And I bet they are all fixed rates. Maybe they don't have to pay property taxes either.


118 posted on 01/24/2006 11:47:21 AM PST by hsmomx3 (Steelers in '06--Go BIG BEN!!!)
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To: Itzlzha

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1563956/posts?page=97#97


119 posted on 01/24/2006 11:47:23 AM PST by devolve (<-- (-in a manner reminiscent of Senator Gasbag F. Kohnman-)
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To: Jhohanna

Good for you, but I did not ask about your relations.


120 posted on 01/24/2006 11:48:28 AM PST by clawrence3
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