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Pope believes Islam incapable of reform?
WorldNet Daily ^ | 24 January 2006 | World Net Daily

Posted on 01/24/2006 4:50:48 AM PST by unionblue83

Pope Benedict XVI believes that unlike other religions, Islam cannot be reformed and, therefore, is incompatible with democracy, according to a Catholic leader who participated with the pontiff in a secretive meeting on the subject.

Fr. Joseph Fessio, provost of Ave Maria University in Naples, Fla., and founder of the publishing house Ignatius Press, spoke with talk-radio host Hugh Hewitt Jan. 5 about the gathering with the pope's former theology students, which took place last September at Castelgondolfo in Italy, the papal summer residence.

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KEYWORDS: bidah; bxvi; islam; kkkoran; koran; pope; quran; religion; rop; trop
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1 posted on 01/24/2006 4:50:49 AM PST by unionblue83
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To: unionblue83

well DUH!


2 posted on 01/24/2006 4:55:56 AM PST by Jazzman1 (lol)
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To: unionblue83
my observations lead me to conclude is-slime is incompatible with civilization.
3 posted on 01/24/2006 4:57:53 AM PST by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: unionblue83

In other news, the Pope is Catholic.


4 posted on 01/24/2006 4:58:19 AM PST by exile (Exile - Helen Thomas tried to lure me into her Gingerbread House.)
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To: unionblue83
In July, when asked by reporters, Benedict refused to declare Islam "a religion of peace", a phrase often invoked by President Bush.

A phrase the President would do well to temper. Islam demeans the human spirit rather than lifts it.

5 posted on 01/24/2006 5:01:33 AM PST by yoe
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To: yoe

Yes, the fundamentalist Muslim threat to the civilized world is now within eyesight as Iran seeks nuclear weaponry. The "religion of peace" idea sounded good but never materialized.


6 posted on 01/24/2006 5:05:42 AM PST by ThirstyMan (hysteria: the elixir of the Left that trumps all reason)
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To: unionblue83

WOW What a shocker, who'ld-a-thunk-it?


7 posted on 01/24/2006 5:05:46 AM PST by exnavy (God bless Amreica)
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To: unionblue83
There is, at the very least, an irreconcilable wing of Islam.
8 posted on 01/24/2006 5:08:08 AM PST by msnimje (http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/shared-blogs/ajc/luckovich/index.html . FREEP THIS HOURLY!)
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To: exile

No, he isn't saying anything theological here, but rather sociological. E.g. Buddhists are no more Christian than Mooselimbs are, but Buddhism is not poison to a civilized political system like Islam is.


9 posted on 01/24/2006 5:08:53 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: unionblue83
The author of the www.chiesa article, Sandro Magister, noted the discussion is not merely theoretical, but "has significant geopolitical repercussions." "America's overall strategy in Iraq and the greater Middle East is founded precisely upon the possibility of democracy's birth and growth in those Muslim regions," Magister said. My problem with what we're doing. I think the sword is the only thing the lion share of the Islamic middle east respects. We should deport all non-citizen muslims NOW and kick some serious butt in the middle east (in Black Jack Pershing fashion) until the terrorists are subdued.
10 posted on 01/24/2006 5:09:13 AM PST by Vaquero (time again for the Crusades.)
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To: unionblue83
Call me crazy, but Islam today doesn't look much different then did Christianity in the 15th, and 16th century.
11 posted on 01/24/2006 5:10:54 AM PST by bikepacker67
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If they do not practice the basic tennants of their religion, or if the convert Christianity and practice that...then they are not only capable of reforming...they are in fact reforming.

It's just that we are not going to butcher them, enslave them, or foist any type of absolute religious rule on them to achieve those ends...it's a matter of free choice, as all matters of faith must be. That is the fundamental difference IMHO.

12 posted on 01/24/2006 5:12:18 AM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: bikepacker67
Call me crazy, but Islam today doesn't look much different then did Christianity in the 15th, and 16th century.

You may be right, but the problem is keeping them from nuking us during the next 400 years or so until they grow out of it.
13 posted on 01/24/2006 5:15:53 AM PST by BubbaTheRocketScientist
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To: ThirstyMan

The "religion of peace" moniker was used to quell any knee jerk reaction against Muslims in the US after 9/11 imho. Yet it seems that ‘religion’ is at the root of all terrorist activities – which brings Islam into the conundrum category of when is a religion not a religion – is it more a tale of Arabic Fables?


14 posted on 01/24/2006 5:17:06 AM PST by yoe
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To: bikepacker67

"Call me crazy, but Islam today doesn't look much different then did Christianity in the 15th, and 16th century."

So what does that tell you? Christianity has become modernized...Islam hasn't.


15 posted on 01/24/2006 5:19:56 AM PST by Arpege92 ("When the wise is pointing to the moon, the frog looks at the finger.")
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To: BubbaTheRocketScientist
You may be right, but the problem is keeping them from nuking us during the next 400 years

Or you're absolutely correct. But I think saying that Islam is incapable of reform is ridiculous.

We must continue to pursue democracy, education and the hunting down and killing of those (individuals and states) that wish to resist reform. Just like Bush is doing.

16 posted on 01/24/2006 5:22:38 AM PST by bikepacker67
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To: yoe
I think what Bush REALLY means is that islam is a religion of "pieces" (of mangled body parts).

I think it should be obvious that it is the koran itself that is at the heart of the problem. Unless it can be re-interpreted, which it can't, islam is as islam does.

17 posted on 01/24/2006 5:27:35 AM PST by NearlyNormal (Our military wins wars, only the liberals and their MSM loose them)
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To: unionblue83

Jesus sets people free, Mohammad enslaves.


18 posted on 01/24/2006 5:28:58 AM PST by bella1
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To: bikepacker67
Or you're absolutely correct. But I think saying that Islam is incapable of reform is ridiculous.

The Syrian born Islamic Scholar who wrote the following article states otherwise: Islamic Scholar Warns U.S. of 'Two-Faced' Muslims
19 posted on 01/24/2006 5:29:50 AM PST by Man50D
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To: Arpege92

The Christianized world went back to the bible and became peaceful again.

But, whenever Islam goes back to its "bible" you can expect more mayhem.


20 posted on 01/24/2006 5:30:07 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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