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Fox's Whitney: Hillary Clinton is "doomed" in '08 after "plantation" comment
January 23, 2006

Posted on 01/23/2006 11:46:24 PM PST by John Lenin

Transcript of Fox News' Cavuto on Business show with Meredith Whitney and Herman Cain, January 21, 2006

NEIL CAVUTO (host): All right, we're back to go "On the Spot." Meredith, my friend, what have you got?

WHITNEY: It will take more than a village to get Hillary Clinton elected in '08 after her comments on the plantation. She's doomed.

CAVUTO: So the charge that Republicans ran Congress like a plantation, you think, hurts her?

WHITNEY: Yeah. Offended just about everyone.

CAVUTO: Maybe she's galvanizing, do you think she could be galvanizing her base?

WHITNEY: Well, she galvanized blacks, she galvanized me, a lady, and she, I mean, it's -- it's going to be tough sledding for her.

CAVUTO: All right. Herman Cain?

CAIN: Martin Luther King Jr. day, birthday celebration, is supposed to be about unity. She took a play right out of the Democratic playbook, which was when you want to pander to the African Americans, you race-bait. And I happen to think that in 2006 as well as 2008, she's going to discover, along with a lot of other Democrats, that a lot of us have already left the Democratic plantation. And you know what I mean.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cavuto; gopplantation; hillary2008; hillaryclinton
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1 posted on 01/23/2006 11:46:26 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: John Lenin

Who is Meredith Whitney? Is she a reporter or politician? (I just want to consider the source.) Thanks.


2 posted on 01/23/2006 11:49:55 PM PST by inkling
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To: inkling

3 posted on 01/23/2006 11:52:04 PM PST by adamsjas
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To: inkling

News analyst


4 posted on 01/23/2006 11:52:38 PM PST by skr ("That book [Bible], sir, is the rock on which our republic rests."--Andrew Jackson)
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To: inkling

She is a Fox news analyst.


5 posted on 01/23/2006 11:53:31 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: inkling
Who is Meredith Whitney? Is she a reporter or politician? (I just want to consider the source.)

Wrong strategy. Evaluate the message, not the source.

6 posted on 01/23/2006 11:53:46 PM PST by adamsjas
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To: John Lenin

Unfortunately, as reprehensible as the "plantation" race-baiting was, it didn't doom Hillary Gollum Clinton.


7 posted on 01/23/2006 11:56:40 PM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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To: NutCrackerBoy

Maybe not in the Senate race but it sure didn't help for 2008.


8 posted on 01/23/2006 11:57:42 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: John Lenin
It takes a Village Idiot to make such a blatant blunder.

The plantation remark was not her worst of that day but rather the sentence that came after.

"And YOU know what I am talking about!"
9 posted on 01/23/2006 11:58:15 PM PST by msnimje (http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/shared-blogs/ajc/luckovich/index.html . FREEP THIS HOURLY!)
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To: adamsjas

If a Dem is turning on Hillery, it is more powerful than if a GOP-er does. Of course conservatives don't like her... that isn't news. But if Dems are ticked, that is very good news.


10 posted on 01/23/2006 11:59:26 PM PST by inkling
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"And YOU know what I am talking about!"

Yeah, that reminded me of Ross Perot's appearance at the NAACP when he kept calling attendees "you people".

11 posted on 01/24/2006 12:00:28 AM PST by inkling
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To: NutCrackerBoy; John Lenin
Unfortunately, as reprehensible as the "plantation" race-baiting was, it didn't doom Hillary Gollum Clinton.

Correct. It's not as if she were a Republican, in which case it would doom her candidacy. DemocRATS get a free pass to say delusional, crazy, or racist comments in order to help them with particular voting blocks.

12 posted on 01/24/2006 12:06:02 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Happy New Year!)
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To: NutCrackerBoy

I think she was doomed that day but not for the plantation remark, the Barrett report may have sealed her fate.


13 posted on 01/24/2006 12:17:34 AM PST by John Lenin
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To: John Lenin

Must we wait for '08? I would like to see her tossed out this year, early as possible, and I would like to see John Spencer as NY senator. He was my mayor and, from what I know, he is a true blue conservative. Let Hillary be an "elder statesman" before the year is out; it probably won't happen, but we can always hope.


14 posted on 01/24/2006 12:18:27 AM PST by marsh_of_mists
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To: NutCrackerBoy
Unfortunately, as reprehensible as the "plantation" race-baiting was, it didn't doom Hillary Gollum Clinton.

It definatly hurt her.

I thought it was just outright offensive, but alot of folks think it was just shameless pandering (and condecending), or "talking down to".

It pleased the white activist part of the democratic base, but alot of african americans didn't like the idea (as they see it) of folks who are wealthy white congressmen somehow being equated as living in slavery.

FWIW, One democrat I know who knew folks who were there, said that if he media reported the entire context of the statement, it would probably doom her and show that she isn't even ready for "primetime".

She used that statement after someone asked her a question about the democrats getting tougher and what was going on with them in congress (another lefty), and she froze, panicked, and made her plantation comment.

15 posted on 01/24/2006 12:21:54 AM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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Only a "news analyst" would have believed Mrs Hilary Lizard Brain Cli'ton had any chance, west of the Hudson, of being erected to office more influential than Kansas City Missouri dogcatcher, on a low turnout day, maybe, BEFORE she grabbed at yet another opportunity to demonstrate her existential bigotry to the world and her organic appeal to the Bell Curve lumpen.

To the "Democrats'" base, that is.

BUMPping


16 posted on 01/24/2006 12:24:39 AM PST by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: Paleo Conservative
DemocRATS get a free pass to say delusional, crazy, or racist comments in order to help them with particular voting blocks.

yea, but it didn't help her with this block.

They saw it for what it was, she panicked, couldn't answer a question, and made the plantation remark trying to (and failing) to get a cheap pop.

African Americans, didn't like it, and she is ALOT less popular then her husband is with them.

She has the Clinton name, but when it comes to african americans, she doesn't have a clue, her husband knew how to work a crowd, she just panicks and freaks out.

17 posted on 01/24/2006 12:24:56 AM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: John Lenin

This is actually good news for Democrats, if they can get rid of Hillary they might have a chance to win.

She knows she has a problem with black voters, thats why she said it. It was an incredibly stupid thing to say though, it was so obviously politically motivated. It wasn't racist really, its more that it was a insult to people's intelligence, especially blacks.

I don't think its fatal, but it shows how poor a politician she really is. She may end up getting trounced in the primaries by someone like Mark Warner.


18 posted on 01/24/2006 12:27:27 AM PST by OmegaMan
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To: John Lenin

I hate to say it, but Americans have a short memory.


19 posted on 01/24/2006 12:27:37 AM PST by AlGone2001 (He's not a baby anymore...)
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To: John Lenin

Listen to her yell with her abrasive voice, look at the cold gleam in her eyes, see how little she really cares about anyone or anything by her changes in opinions and rhetoric..Those are what "doom" her, along with the fact a LOT of Dems are going to be gunning for her to get the nomination themselves and she and her "husband" have given them a great deal of ammo just with past words and actions!!


20 posted on 01/24/2006 12:28:19 AM PST by BonnieJ
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