[RJL]

Four erudite speakers presented a path toward a near-utopian life for Ukiahans -- full of walkable communities, slower traffic and more prominent greenscaping.

Did these "erudite speakers" point out that when you stack citizen fifty stories high it creates an urban high crime killing zone?

[TChris]

Did these "erudite speakers" point out that when you stack citizen fifty stories high it creates an urban high crime killing zone?

No no! Haven't you been listening? All you do is ban guns and all violent crime will disappear! Just ask Britain.... Ummm, never mind.