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//So saying that his deathbed recantation is a "historical fact" is wrong, right?//

Maybe it is wrong I don't know, but I cant see where he is a bald faced liar for believing this since we have Lady Hope's account it happened.

If I use the logic of your own side, then it has as much weight historical fact as not. It has as much weight historical fact as the assertion that it never happened, indeed maybe more. Why? we have one witness Lady Hope.

I mean CG and D and the others here sceaming liar liar at Lady Hope does not make her one now does it? It is as I said at the start here, at the core it all hinges upon making Lady Hope a liar in the minds of 'the jury'.

I was coming to this more in the abstract rather than trying get some victory or upper hand or disqualify anyone on any grounds. And believe it or not that is where I would be most of the time.

//Enough. You go lost because you want to go lost//

I don't know what that means.

Wolf

If I use the logic of your own side, then it has as much weight historical fact as not.

Not at all. To call something a historical fact, you need more evidence than one person's saying that something happened.